hi8is Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: At this point there's no window. The franchise is a hot mess. And that’s an understatement. ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 58 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: At this point there's no window. The franchise is a hot mess. At some point, most will realize there never was any window. It shut in 2009 and has remained so since. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: At some point, most will realize there never was any window. It shut in 2009 and has remained so since. There was the potential for a window but with the same guys in charge who didn't know how to create a winner it's days were numbered. Toss in Covid and the lockout smack dab in the middle of it, the TLR hiring and seemingly allowing him to call the shots on acquired players so much that they signed an injured reliever (Kelly) and the 3 or 4 core players expected to be very good not being very good and constantly injured just flushed it down the toilet. Eloy ,Robert Moncada the main culprits among the MIA in one way or another. Kopech TJS too. They were propped up by the cheap signing of Rodon for a year and when he was fatigued the 2nd half of 2021 then allowed to leave without a draft pick and no attempt to resign him that threw 2022 into the blender. The whole Kimbrel saga didn't help things entering 2022 either along with the usual Eloy, and Robert injuries and Moncada dinged up all season and acting like baseball was foreign to him when he did play. Anderson also MIA in 2022 along with Gio and Grandal. Let's not forget Vaughn and Sheets forced into playing the OF also along with completely ignoring the need for LH position players and now suddenly remembering this year because of the poor play of Moncada and Grandal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Jake Burger for Nicky Lopez? Why not? Burger isn't going to play for the White Sox. He's blocked at 3rd base by Moncada and blocked at DH by Eloy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 People talk while Rick Hahn walks. According to my abacus the Sox will improve by not acquiring Lopez. They have enough drek on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 10:48 AM, WBWSF said: Jake Burger for Nicky Lopez? Why not? Burger isn't going to play for the White Sox. He's blocked at 3rd base by Moncada and blocked at DH by Eloy. Jake Burger is the bait I have been wanting to use to land Madrigal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 9:48 AM, WBWSF said: Jake Burger for Nicky Lopez? Why not? Because Lopez can't hit and will just clog things up. We already have a veteran infielder who can't hit: Leury Garcia Trade him for a position where we don't have immediate minor league depth: 4th OF or 5th starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 9:48 AM, WBWSF said: Jake Burger for Nicky Lopez? Why not? Burger isn't going to play for the White Sox. He's blocked at 3rd base by Moncada and blocked at DH by Eloy. Don’t each of those guys usually miss significant time during the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 31 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Don’t each of those guys usually miss significant time during the season? I can't imagine that Burger is going to be on the White Sox opening day roster. That being the case I would imagine that Burger won't be too thrilled being sent down to the minors again. If you can get Lopez for him in a trade, why not do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 This is a good baseball fit. He can play both MIF positions, he’s a very fundamentally sound player who can field and fun so naturally, there’s no place for him on this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 It really does seem the Sox leaked this to take some focus off the Clevinger scandal. Sad thing is they thought it would make everyone happy. With that said, I still think it gets done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, fathom said: It really does seem the Sox leaked this to take some focus off the Clevinger scandal. Sad thing is they thought it would make everyone happy. With that said, I still think it gets done. This is the same front office that expected the Benintendi signing to energize ticket sales, so I would not be surprised if this were the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, fathom said: It really does seem the Sox leaked this to take some focus off the Clevinger scandal. Sad thing is they thought it would make everyone happy. With that said, I still think it gets done. I assume that means you’re hearing something on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, fathom said: It really does seem the Sox leaked this to take some focus off the Clevinger scandal. Sad thing is they thought it would make everyone happy. With that said, I still think it gets done. I don't think the sox trust any of their options as SS, as Mendick is now gone and andrus is unlikely to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I assume that means you’re hearing something on it? Nothing since initial rumor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I think it's unlikely. Probably stemmed from kc royals initial depth sell off, but only made sense if his price was low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, bmags said: I think it's unlikely. Probably stemmed from kc royals initial depth sell off, but only made sense if his price was low. Is there any interesting SP option we can also trade for with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 35 minutes ago, fathom said: Nothing since initial rumor Any clue on who would be traded? I'm sure it'll be a bad trade on our end lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, fathom said: It really does seem the Sox leaked this to take some focus off the Clevinger scandal. Sad thing is they thought it would make everyone happy. With that said, I still think it gets done. I hope not. Nicky Lopez stinks. Just play Lenyn Sosa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 43 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Is there any interesting SP option we can also trade for with him? I doubt it, they have all those semi-young pitchers from the 2018 draft that have underperformed. I think they'll all want them in with the new regime. But, it would be interesting to see what Katz does with a daniel lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4uckOffCommieScum Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 It’s so nice we have Leury tied up so we can let superior teams sign our castaways like Mendick and Harrison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Good teams acquire guys like Lopez in July. Not February. Give me the upside with our pre-arb guys. If they all fizzle, then you can acquire a more established name for very little at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxTrojan Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I'm not advocating for the move, because as others have said, Lopez kinda sucks, but the idea behind acquiring a cheap LH infielder would be to serve as a quasi-platoon with Romy or Sosa, not to be the all-out starter. It might start out with one of the rookies (is Romy still considered a rookie?) strictly playing against LHP, but if they succeed, they would eat into Lopez's workload against RHP. If by the time the deadline rolls around one of the rookies looks like they can handle the spot full time, you get rid of Lopez. In that situation Leury moves to more of a 4th OF role, and Marisnick stays in Charlotte. Or Eloy gets more time in the OF. I'm confident in Sosa and Romy to hit LHP at the major league level, but I'm far less confident they can hit RHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4uckOffCommieScum Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, bmags said: I don't think the sox trust any of their options as SS, as Mendick is now gone and andrus is unlikely to return. Did TA die or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said: Did TA die or something? He's referring to backup. TA will inevitably land on the IL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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