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joejoesox Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 2/21/2023 at 10:03 AM, joejoesox said: Leury isn't gonna be sent to the minors/released lol Unless he's hurt or some drama goes down, he's our utility guy and I'm fine with it as long as he isnt asked to play every day ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossanoveralls Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, joejoesox said: ? It must feel so right to be so wrong. I say lay off the lotto tix for a few days or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bossanoveralls Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, joejoesox said: Faaack!!! I had successfully erased Dr. Death from my memory, ya fargin' bastage. May you forget to remove the ball hitch from the back of your truck and you whack your shin on it so hard that you ruin your favorite shirt rolling around in your grocier's parking lot yelling a bunch of stuff you can't say on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, joejoesox said: You know what would solve this problem….not spending your money on a bunch of tier2/tier3 level players and actually signing stars instead of trying to bargain shop 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Nice. Admitting is the first step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said: You know what would solve this problem….not spending your money on a bunch of tier2/tier3 level players and actually signing stars instead of trying to bargain shop Did Jon Jay finish that season out that started paired with Alonso? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, joejoesox said: Yet the owner who throws nickels around like they are manhole covers, hasn't fired Hahn for his incompetence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: Yet the owner who throws nickels around like they are manhole covers, hasn't fired Hahn for his incompetence. And the owner in CLE who only throws nickels X infinity around are for transcendent franchise players like Jose Ramirez and potentially Shane Don't Call Me Justin Bieber. Also interesting bordering on intriguing to see how the financial constraints of the Bally/Sinclair fallout affect the Guardians' financial flexibility this year. Edited March 27, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 hours ago, joejoesox said: 38 million down the drain and he still hasn't enough to prove he sucks at his job apparently 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, nitetrain8601 said: 38 million down the drain and he still hasn't enough to prove he sucks at his job apparently That's just recently, if you go back to the start of his tenure (say Keppinger for example) he's wasted a lot more than that. Although to be fair Hahn doesn't make these decisions in a vacuum. Kenny's still involved and the Sox talent evaluation people make recommendations at both the major and minor league level. They need to be held accountable too. Edited March 27, 2023 by Lip Man 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, nitetrain8601 said: 38 million down the drain and he still hasn't enough to prove he sucks at his job apparently Why commit lot money to one player over long time, when you can give money to many player over small time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Quin said: Why commit lot money to one player over long time, when you can give money to many player over small time? Death by a thousand cuts. 8-10 solid players but we are right back to 2013-2016 again. Not enough talent infusion from the minors and failures across the core. Edited March 27, 2023 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 44 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: That's just recently, if you go back to the start of his tenure (say Keppinger for example) he's wasted a lot more than that. Although to be fair Hahn doesn't make these decisions in a vacuum. Kenny's still involved and the Sox talent evaluation people make recommendations at both the major and minor league level. They need to be held accountable too. Totally agree. Also, it’s important to note that he isn’t the only GM in the game to make signings that didn’t pan out. plenty of examples of this happening every season, the main reason they aren’t the big dollar failures is because the owner is a cheap ass. Hahn also is largely responsible for making the trades that infused serious talent into the team i.e. kopech, moncada, cease, Eloy etc… those were some great moves that really positioned the team to make a championship run. Unfortunately the corresponding moves to push the team over the top didn’t pan out and we’ve been left with the roster we currently have. He’s done an ok job overall in my opinion given the constraints, nepostism and favoritism he has to deal with as part of the WS front office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I’ve said it for the past few seasons, the Sox aren’t serious about winning as long as Leury Garcia is on the roster. I guess they’re finally serious about winning. It’s a new day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Now is he not on the roster because he's being released, or is he not on the roster because they are going to IL him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 10 hours ago, bighurt4life said: Totally agree. Also, it’s important to note that he isn’t the only GM in the game to make signings that didn’t pan out. plenty of examples of this happening every season, the main reason they aren’t the big dollar failures is because the owner is a cheap ass. Hahn also is largely responsible for making the trades that infused serious talent into the team i.e. kopech, moncada, cease, Eloy etc… those were some great moves that really positioned the team to make a championship run. Unfortunately the corresponding moves to push the team over the top didn’t pan out and we’ve been left with the roster we currently have. He’s done an ok job overall in my opinion given the constraints, nepostism and favoritism he has to deal with as part of the WS front office. I agree with this. Hahn has spent a lot of money on garbage free agents that did not pan out, but being hamstring by KW and JR hasn’t helped. My anger is more directed at JR for not spending much when other teams drastically improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Now is he not on the roster because he's being released, or is he not on the roster because they are going to IL him? It would be the most White Sox thing to do to IL him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Now is he not on the roster because he's being released, or is he not on the roster because they are going to IL him? Fegans article said Leurys locker was cleared out yesterday. He gone. I assume order of events will be DFA, clearing waivers and then being granted his release. Then he signs elsewhere for MLB min, saving Sox $700k of the $11M due and Leury is back in the big leagues in under 10 days. Edited March 27, 2023 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Fegans article said Leurys locker was cleared out yesterday. He gone. I assume order of events will be DFA, clearing waivers and then being granted his release. Then he signs elsewhere for MLB min, saving Sox $700k of the $11M due and Leury is back in the big leagues in under 10 days. He was so awful last year, I bet he's going to have to play minor league baseball if he wants to continue his career. With $11 million coming to him the next 2 seasons, and probably no paydays after that, he may be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 The rest of Leury's career feels predictable: MLB deal at league minimum with some shitty team like OAK, CIN, PIT, or WAS this year and then minor league deals after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: He was so awful last year, I bet he's going to have to play minor league baseball if he wants to continue his career. With $11 million coming to him the next 2 seasons, and probably no paydays after that, he may be done. I highly doubt that but we’ll find out soon enough. Definitely think a rebuilding type club would take him for the major league minimum. That said, I wouldn’t blame him for collecting $11 million while doing nothing. Good gig if you can get it. Edited March 27, 2023 by ChiSox59 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I highly doubt that but we’ll find out soon enough. Definitely think a rebuilding type club would take him for the major league minimum. That said, I wouldn’t blame him for collecting $11 million while doing nothing. Good gig if you can get it. I just don't know the upside. He was the worst hitter in baseball last year, and generally a below average player in a best case scenerio. He isn't going to be flipped for anything. He isn't going to show your young players how to play. Unless you are tanking and want to lose, it's the only appeal to have him on the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 11 hours ago, nitetrain8601 said: 38 million down the drain and he still hasn't enough to prove he sucks at his job apparently and they would've eaten half the s%*# buckets money of he didn't cut a deal with MLB. But it's all Kenny Williams fault. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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