Lip Man 1 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Mets owner commented today to the media: “I made a commitment to the fans. It wasn’t a short-term commitment. When I do something, I don’t do it halfway. When I’m in, I’m all in. I don’t accept mediocrity well. And so I have a certain high expectation. If it requires me to invest in this club, I’m going to do it.” “At the Owners’ Meetings, I had owners coming up and they go, ‘You're 100% right. You are following the rules.’ Which I am,” Cohen said. “They laid down the rules, and I’m following them.” “You know how hard it is to get into the World Series, right?” Cohen said. “The only thing you can do is put yourself in a position where good things can happen; you’ve got to make the playoffs, your team’s got to be healthy, it’s got be rested, it’s got to be raring to go. And then you let the chips fall where they may. And if you keep putting yourself there, one day, we’ll get there.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 https://sports.yahoo.com/nbas-player-movement-era-creates-buzz-for-league-freedom-for-players-but-is-there-a-downside-050528086.html Was just reading this article about the NBA and how stars moving so frequently and dictating trade terms is good for the league. Would have to argue the exact opposite for MLB...as it's increasingly a regional sport and stars in their first 6-7 years of player control are the lifeblood of small market teams, like Jose Ramirez in CLE or Wander Franco in TB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 33 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Mets owner commented today to the media: “I made a commitment to the fans. It wasn’t a short-term commitment. When I do something, I don’t do it halfway. When I’m in, I’m all in. I don’t accept mediocrity well. And so I have a certain high expectation. If it requires me to invest in this club, I’m going to do it.” “At the Owners’ Meetings, I had owners coming up and they go, ‘You're 100% right. You are following the rules.’ Which I am,” Cohen said. “They laid down the rules, and I’m following them.” “You know how hard it is to get into the World Series, right?” Cohen said. “The only thing you can do is put yourself in a position where good things can happen; you’ve got to make the playoffs, your team’s got to be healthy, it’s got be rested, it’s got to be raring to go. And then you let the chips fall where they may. And if you keep putting yourself there, one day, we’ll get there.” I'm jealous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I can't help but wonder how Cohen reacts if the 2023 Mets have a bad year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, WBWSF said: I can't help but wonder how Cohen reacts if the 2023 Mets have a bad year. Sounds like based on his first comment if they do, he'll double down the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, WBWSF said: I can't help but wonder how Cohen reacts if the 2023 Mets have a bad year. Probably by spending more money. THE HORROR! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (Padres chastised by Rockies' ownership and Rob Manfred for "unsustainable" spending.) If only JR heard the same criticism during his lifetime...maybe Albert Belle signing, but that was done intentionally by JR to mock the free agency system and escalating salaries prevalent in the mid to late 90's. He didn't get stuck holding the bag with that deal for very long, either. God knows if 2005 even happens if not for the Orioles interceding fortuitously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 JR spends enough money to put the Sox in a position to make the playoffs and, if things go right, make the WS each year. Money isn't how he's shortchanging the org. and its fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 40 minutes ago, GreenSox said: JR spends enough money to put the Sox in a position to make the playoffs and, if things go right, make the WS each year. Money isn't how he's shortchanging the org. and its fans. Just inefficiently. Have fallen from 7th to 12th in payroll now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Now we know why ol uncle Jerry didn't want this guy around... Makes him look more like a total ass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 some of the richest people are the cheapest people. we have that in Jerry. he's the guy who's tipping 20% on a meal to the penny and 10-15% on expensive wine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 hours ago, JoshPR said: Now we know why ol uncle Jerry didn't want this guy around... Makes him look more like a total ass I don’t think it was ever a secret, in fact I’m pretty sure that all came out when Cohen was being considered as an owner, that JR was extremely against it. Jerry knew that Cohen was planning on spending and changing the spend structure in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, he gone. said: some of the richest people are the cheapest people. we have that in Jerry. he's the guy who's tipping 20% on a meal to the penny and 10-15% on expensive wine. If he is tipping 20 percent then he is all good. Not sure how that paints him as cheap lmao 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 In response to Cohen MLB has formed a committee. Author says it is the first move to try to get a salary cap imposed in the future: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-owners-create-economic-reform-committee-as-worries-linger-over-steve-cohens-spending-broadcast-deals/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: If he is tipping 20 percent then he is all good. Not sure how that paints him as cheap lmao depends on how expensive the wine I know there will be quotes coming from the millionaire next door books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: In response to Cohen MLB has formed a committee. Author says it is the first move to try to get a salary cap imposed in the future: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-owners-create-economic-reform-committee-as-worries-linger-over-steve-cohens-spending-broadcast-deals/ You know Jerry is leading the charge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 59 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said: You know Jerry is leading the charge! About as effective as Pickett's charge at Gettysburg. Futile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: In response to Cohen MLB has formed a committee. Author says it is the first move to try to get a salary cap imposed in the future: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-owners-create-economic-reform-committee-as-worries-linger-over-steve-cohens-spending-broadcast-deals/ The next work stoppage is gonna be lit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Phillies owner John Middleton seems to share the same philosophy as Cohen: Quote The payroll is closing in on the second-tier $253 million luxury-tax threshold, trailing only the Mets, Yankees, and Padres, and jockeying in the deep end with the Dodgers and Blue Jays. But for Middleton, as ever, the bottom line goes beyond the bottom line, which explains why he keeps spending ... and spending ... and spending. “How much money did the ‘27 Yankees make? Or the ‘29 A’s? Or the ‘75-76 Big Red Machine?” Middleton said. “Does anybody know? Does anybody care? Nobody knows or cares whether any of them made any money or not. And nobody cares about whether I make money or not. If my legacy is that I didn’t lose any money owning a baseball team on an annual operating basis, that’s a pretty sad legacy. It’s about putting trophies in the cases. “If your ambition is to be good, you don’t make those decisions [to sign Turner]. If your ambition is to be great, you make those decisions. It’s about desire, really. I just want to win.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Hamhock said: Phillies owner John Middleton seems to share the same philosophy as Cohen: "Words you will never heard spoken by Jerry Reinsdorf for $400, Alex...." Edited February 21, 2023 by caulfield12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 23 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: If he is tipping 20 percent then he is all good. Not sure how that paints him as cheap lmao If you have the means of JR and you're tipping 20% then you're an asshole. When you get to the level of billionaire you should be tipping 100%+. Let's put it this way. Let's say you've saved $100,000 cash in your bank account. Now let's just call JR worth $1,000,000,000 (Bulls valued over $4B, Sox at $1.75B), but for easy math let's call him $1B. You have 1/10,000 of his money. So let's say a bill comes and its $500. Him tipping 20% v 100% is $100 v. $500. That $400 difference is worth $400/10,000 to a person with $100k in their bank account. Or 4 cents. Now let's call him what he's worth at over $5B ... it's the equivalent of one penny. If he's not tipping 100% on a $500 bill it's the equivalent to adding ONE PENNY onto his bill to someone with $100k in the bank. 9% of Americans have $100k or more in savings in the bank. Perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Lmao indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 haha right? It's why Steve Cohen is correct & why all Sox fans are correct in their gripes. Assuming JR at $5B net worth. Adding $10mm to a payroll is like asking someone with a $100k cash to add $200 to our fantasy Sox baseball roster payroll. That's also assuming their is zero return on that $10mm. Aka, no ticket sales, no wins, no merch sales, no anything. I don't know about you all, but if I was the owner and all these fans who use my baseball team is a stress reliever, a moment of joy, etc. and their ask was to put in an extra $200 per year? I'd do it. $500? Why not? And again, thats assuming no ROI (return on investment). If the Sox spent $25mm more this off-season I'm pretty sure there would be more season tickets sold, many more wins, many more day of ticket sales, more beer bought and more parking sold. $25mm could've netted Conforto and Segura give or take and still fit in the our "window" Not even asking for the big, long contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/22/mets-steve-cohen-casino-00136687 "NEW YORK — A hedge fund billionaire and a gaming giant hoping to land a coveted license to run a casino in New York City have to clear a major hurdle in Albany this year — or risk tougher odds in the crowded competition. And a few weeks into a new legislative session in Albany, politicians who will help decide the fate of the proposals are already expressing doubts. The race for three New York City-area casino licenses has drawn 11 proposals from gambling companies and real estate developers, who are sparing little expense for a slice of the lucrative untapped market. They will soon begin a lengthy state process that requires winning over local politicians and state gaming regulators. But two of the proposals — one from billionaire New York Mets owner Steve Cohen, and another from the gaming firm Bally’s — need an added layer of approval from the City Council and state Legislature, due to an obscure process governing the land where both bidders are looking to build. Cohen recently unveiled plans for an $8 billion casino complex on the parking lot adjacent to Citi Field in Queens, while Bally’s is looking to build a casino at the Bronx golf course it took over from the Trump Organization in September." Edited January 22 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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