Capn12 Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Just thought it was interesting to look at some other players contracts. Heres a few interesting ones: Todd Helton 1B COL Signed Mar 2001 - 9 years/$141.5M 2003: $10.6M 2004: $11.6M 2005: $12.6M 2006: $16.6M 2007: $16.6M 2008: $16.6M 2009: $16.6M 2010: $16.6M 2011: $19.1M 2012: Team option $23.0M or $4.6M buyout -Can void the deal after 2007 ---OK, this guy is 30 right now. Yes, he is an UNBELIEVABLE talent, but he is signed at $16 mil minimum until he is 39!!! Ouch. Mike Hampton LHP ATL Signed Dec 2000 - 8 years/$121M 2001: $8.0M (+$20.0M signing bonus deferred until end of contract) 2002: $8.5M 2003: $11.0M [ATL $2.0M / FLA $9.0M] 2004: $12.0M [ATL $2.0M / FLA $10.0M] 2005: $12.5M [ATL $1.5M / FLA $11.0M] 2006: $13.5M 2007: $14.5M 2008: $15.0M 2009: Team option $20.0M or $6.0M buyout -S/b: $1M to charity, $19M paid in 10 annual instalments -Bonuses: $150K MVP WS, $100K Cy Young/MVP LCS, $50K 2-5 Cy Young voting/MVP LDS, $25K AS selection/Gold Glove/Silver Slugger -After trades: COL pays signing bonus, 2003-5 as above, 2006-9 ATL liable ---For the next 2 years, the Braves got a HUGE deal in Hampton, IMO. That deal was amazing for Hampton to have gotten when Colorado and O'Dowd were going crazy with the contracts. He is still one of my favorite players. Chan Ho Park RHP TEX Signed Dec 2001 - 5 years/$65M 2002: $11.0M 2003: $12.0M 2004: $13.0M 2005: $14.0M 2006: $15.0M -Can void deal after 2002 unless team pays additional $6M by Nov 10th ---Good lord, I'd HATE to be stuck with that contract. What bad planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Park and Hampton are two of the worst deals in baseball, other than the ridiculous contracts the Tigers gave Easley, Higginson and Dmitri Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Park and Hampton are two of the worst deals in baseball, other than the ridiculous contracts the Tigers gave Easley, Higginson and Dmitri Young. Mo Vaughn Man what a horrible deal that was. I still remember watching his first game in Anaheim and when I saw him fall into the dugout and roll his ankle I looked over at my buddies and siad their goes his career. Little did I know my snide, sarcastic ass comment would turn true. Some other bad contracts are Jeff Weaver's deal, Raul Mondesi's deal, and Darren Dreiforts. I'd call the Kevin Brown deal horrible too along with the money Charles Johnson got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Can somoen please post the salries for Maggs, Paully, Soriano, and Johnson for next season. I am in an argument with a buddy right now, and need the info. HAHA Soriano is 800 K or so Johnson is like 500 K Maggs is 14 mill Paulie is 8.25 mill and if he gets dealt it goes up 500K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Jeff Bagwell 1B HOU Signed Dec 2000 - 5 years/$85M 2002: $8.0M (+$15.0M signing bonus paid between 2002-6) 2003: $10.0M 2004: $13.0M 2005: $15.0M 2006: $17.0M 2007: Team option $18.0M or $7.0M buyout -Deferred salary for 2002 to 2006: $2M, $3M, $6M, $8M, $10M I think this one is interesting. Bagwell is pretty good....but not worth that kind fo money lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Soriano is 800 K or so Johnson is like 500 K Maggs is 14 mill Paulie is 8.25 mill and if he gets dealt it goes up 500K. How is Soriano 800k, and when is his contract up? Soriano made $800k last year. His contract is not up. He is still within his first 6 years. I don't even think he is eligible for arbitration, but I may be wrong on that. If he is not arb eligible, I would expect him to make $1.2 or so this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 If you need a lesson in bad contracts look at the mets of 1992, and the mets of 2002. The two WORST teams money can buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Mo Vaughn Man what a horrible deal that was. I still remember watching his first game in Anaheim and when I saw him fall into the dugout and roll his ankle I looked over at my buddies and siad their goes his career. Little did I know my snide, sarcastic ass comment would turn true. Some other bad contracts are Jeff Weaver's deal, Raul Mondesi's deal, and Darren Dreiforts. I'd call the Kevin Brown deal horrible too along with the money Charles Johnson got. Just for fun.... Mo Vaughn 1999: $5.0M (+$13.0M signing bonus, $5.0M paid initially) 2000: $9.0M 2001: $11.0M 2002: $10.0M 2003: $15.0M (plus remaining $8.0M of signing bonus) 2004: $15.0M 2005: Team option $14.0M or $2.0M buyout Jeff Weaver (anyone want him still?) 2002: $2.4M 2003: $4.1M 2004: $6.25M 2005: $9.25M Darren Dreifort (ouch) 2001: $9.0M (+$2.0M signing bonus) 2002: $9.0M 2003: $11.0M 2004: $11.0M 2005: $13.0M Charles Johnson 2001: $5.0M 2002: $5.0M 2003: $7.0M 2004: $9.0M 2005: $9.0M Bobby Higginson 2002: $5.85M 2003: $8.85M 2004: $8.85M 2005: $11.85M Another for good measure..... I like him as a player a lot, but this is A LOT of money.. Derek Jeter 2001: $11.0M (+$16.0M signing bonus paid over 8 years) 2002: $13.0M 2003: $14.0M 2004: $17.0M 2005: $18.0M 2006: $19.0M 2007: $20.0M 2008: $20.0M 2009: $20.0M 2010: $21.0M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I dunno, the Rangers are making a run at them..... Alex Rodriguez SS TEX Signed Dec 2000 - 10 years/$252M 2001: $21.0M^ (+$10.0M signing bonus paid between 2001-5) 2002: $21.0M* 2003: $21.0M~ 2004: $21.0M~ 2005: $25.0M* 2006: $25.0M* 2007: $27.0M* 2008: $27.0M~ 2009: $27.0M~ 2010: $27.0M~ -Deferred salary: ^$5M *$4M ~$3M deferred at 3% to 2011-2020 -Can void deal after 2007, 8 or 9. Guaranteed salary increase for 2009&10 -Numurous bonuses for MVP awards, All Star appearances, Gold Glove etc. Chan Ho Park RHP TEX Signed Dec 2001 - 5 years/$65M 2002: $11.0M 2003: $12.0M 2004: $13.0M 2005: $14.0M 2006: $15.0M -Can void deal after 2002 unless team pays additional $6M by Nov 10th Rafael Palmeiro TEX $45.0M over 5 years ('99-'03) and they traded away Everett to us this year. Granted they have some good young guns but they made some equally horrible contracts. It is pretty rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I just find it hard to fathom that ANY player is worth $15 mil or more a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Let alone $20 mil plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I just find it hard to fathom that ANY player is worth $15 mil or more a year. I would pay 20 million to get a pitcher as dominating as Sandy Koufax was in his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted October 29, 2003 Author Share Posted October 29, 2003 I wouldnt pay $20 mill for anyone playing the game right now. The top 2 players that I may pay $15 mill per season to would probably be Todd Helton and Alex Rodriguez. I woulda wanted Todd Helton about 3 years ago, right when he turned 27. You get that Todd Helton for 5 years, 60-80 mill.....thats some production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I think Konerko's 8 million a year should rank right up there with worst contracts in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 What is wrong with the Raffy contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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