harkness99 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I see we are keeping the Larussa tradition alive... sitting Robert and Grandal with Eloy out... same championship formula... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) If sitting Robert once every 10 games keeps him off the IL, I’ll happily take 145 games played. Would I have had him in there? Absolutely. But I get the logic. Yaz sat because day game after night with day game tomorrow. Pretty simple on that one. Edited April 9, 2023 by ChiSox59 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, harkness99 said: I see we are keeping the Larussa tradition alive... sitting Robert and Grandal with Eloy out... same championship formula... Ozzie was the king of Sunday lineups 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I simply don't understand this considering the Sox had Tuesday off and have another off day on Thursday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Moncada now 1-14 since Grifol benched him for a scheduled day off. This is not a good look. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 They’ve pretty much punted the season already with their offseason, what else do you expect? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said: They’ve pretty much punted the season already with their offseason, what else do you expect? And two other games where they let Lynn and Kopech get slaughtered because of bad roster construction with no long reliever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Perspectives from someone who did not watch the Easter game Surprised by the score Pleased that Kopech pitched well Getting a little nervous because I do not remember one White Sox team that started the year poorly and then went on to do a damned thing the rest of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, wegner said: Perspectives from someone who did not watch the Easter game Surprised by the score Pleased that Kopech pitched well Getting a little nervous because I do not remember one White Sox team that started the year poorly and then went on to do a damned thing the rest of the season 1983 team started 16-24. 2008 team was 14-17 at one point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Texsox said: Ozzie was the king of Sunday lineups About to say, Sunday punt-the-game lineups go back to the Ozzie era. Did they ever go away, that’s the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, wegner said: Perspectives from someone who did not watch the Easter game Surprised by the score Pleased that Kopech pitched well Getting a little nervous because I do not remember one White Sox team that started the year poorly and then went on to do a damned thing the rest of the season I believe it was on this day in 2022 they were 6-2 entering play and lost the next 8 straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: 1983 team started 16-24. 2008 team was 14-17 at one point. The 2001 Sox were 15 under at one point but rebounded to win 83 games, only the second MLB team to ever do that (Brewers did it first in the early 90's) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: 1983 team started 16-24. 2008 team was 14-17 at one point. Thanks for the perspective. Ill hold out hope for now. Despite today's score, the offense is looking better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: I believe it was on this day in 2022 they were 6-2 entering play and lost the next 8 straight. So they are due to win 8 in a row? I'll take it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: If sitting Robert once every 10 games keeps him off the IL, I’ll happily take 145 games played. Would I have had him in there? Absolutely. But I get the logic. Yaz sat because day game after night with day game tomorrow. Pretty simple on that one. Yeah if we are going to sit Robert that much... i still think there should be other considerations besides a set schedule. The offense was already missing a couple of key contributors today for other more prescient reasons. Rest Robert later when Eloy is back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 36 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: The 2001 Sox were 15 under at one point but rebounded to win 83 games, only the second MLB team to ever do that (Brewers did it first in the early 90's) 2005 Astros were close...maybe 14 under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 40-50 games seems to be about what it takes to see where a team might be at. I think we all have a right to be very frustrated given the last two seasons, but the fact is we still have a very talented team that is certainly capable of winning 90 games in a weak division…even if they start something like 22-28, because getting Hendriks and Crochet back plus adding relevant bullpen and bench pieces at the deadline could truly turn this into a very good team that hits its stride at the right time. It’s very tempting to want to be right about this team being bad, but it’s just too early to know with a group with this much raw talent, and that may not be a bad thing. Edited April 10, 2023 by Greg Hibbard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Greg Hibbard said: 40-50 games seems to be about what it takes to see where a team might be at. I think we all have a right to be very frustrated given the last two seasons, but the fact is we still have a very talented team that is certainly capable of winning 90 games in a weak division. Even if they start something like 22-28, because getting Hendriks and Crochet back plus adding relevant bullpen and bench pieces at the deadline could truly turn this into a very good team that hits its stride at the right time. It’s very tempting to want to be right about this team being bad, but it’s just too early to know with a group with this much raw talent, and that may not be a bad thing. There is some truth to what you've said but that should also be tempered with Rick Hahn's track record in acquiring talent (the latest being Diekman) which far more often than not has been a real failure. Plus even if they are in a race in a weak division will JR take the plunge financially? They certainly didn't over the off-season when competition for talent isn't as intense or critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: 40-50 games seems to be about what it takes to see where a team might be at. I think we all have a right to be very frustrated given the last two seasons, but the fact is we still have a very talented team that is certainly capable of winning 90 games in a weak division…even if they start something like 22-28, because getting Hendriks and Crochet back plus adding relevant bullpen and bench pieces at the deadline could truly turn this into a very good team that hits its stride at the right time. It’s very tempting to want to be right about this team being bad, but it’s just too early to know with a group with this much raw talent, and that may not be a bad thing. With the new balanced schedule...84-85 wins might get it done. Can no longer beat up the Tigers like 2020-21. Until the Sox prove they can consistently beat the Twins and Guardians and utilize home field advantage...they're going to be stuck around .500. Absolutely no insurance for injuries in that pen and one serviceable minor league starter in Martin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, wegner said: Perspectives from someone who did not watch the Easter game Surprised by the score Pleased that Kopech pitched well Getting a little nervous because I do not remember one White Sox team that started the year poorly and then went on to do a damned thing the rest of the season How many Sox teams have actually done a damn thing at all in the last 100 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: There is some truth to what you've said but that should also be tempered with Rick Hahn's track record in acquiring talent (the latest being Diekman) which far more often than not has been a real failure. Plus even if they are in a race in a weak division will JR take the plunge financially? They certainly didn't over the off-season when competition for talent isn't as intense or critical. Hahn traded a bad top 5 pick for the Dallas Keuchel of closers. His track record is pretty awful even when you include Cease and Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 32 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: How many Sox teams have actually done a damn thing at all in the last 100 years? As a White Sox historian the era from 1951-1967 was terrific. 1972 was wonderful as was 1977. 1981-1985 was a solid period and so was 1990-1994. The period from 2000-20006 was about as good as any since the Golden Age from 1951-67. A lot of it depends on what you mean by "doing a damn thing." Not justifying what has happened to this franchise since the start of the 2007 season but they have actually done some good things over the last 100 seasons...just not as many as perhaps they would have with better ownership. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, SonofaRoache said: How many Sox teams have actually done a damn thing at all in the last 100 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 19 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: If sitting Robert once every 10 games keeps him off the IL, I’ll happily take 145 games played. Would I have had him in there? Absolutely. But I get the logic. Yaz sat because day game after night with day game tomorrow. Pretty simple on that one. Fine, but sit them on different days. Give Robert Monday off instead of Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, CentralChamps21 said: Fine, but sit them on different days. Give Robert Monday off instead of Sunday. Nah, I'd much rather Robert play against the Twins that Pirates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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