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4 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

I would have liked Pedro to "defend" his bullpen by going after Buckner for that crap call in game 1 that helped to change the game from a 1 run to a 3 run contest.  Totally different ballgame being down 3.

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This year is going to be downright bad, but next year is going to be absolutely dreadful. We only have Kopech and Cease returning. When Kopech goes down to a hamstring injury (white sox tradition), our #2 starter is going to be a callup from the worst farm system in the game.

Stop giving your money to Reinsdorf

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8 minutes ago, reiks12 said:

This year is going to be downright bad, but next year is going to be absolutely dreadful. We only have Kopech and Cease returning. When Kopech goes down to a hamstring injury (white sox tradition), our #2 starter is going to be a callup from the worst farm system in the game.

Stop giving your money to Reinsdorf

Any ohtani level types at 1-1? if we draft one we will only need half a dozen more like him to compete.

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17 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Grifol is not only is a questionable hire and quite possibly a terrible mistake as the Sox manager, but he is so annoying when he defends his mediocre players way too much to a fault. I was listening to the post game on the radio driving yesterday after game 1 and he kept saying how Lynn was just getting bad luck once again. He was so proud of Lynn outing and how he battled. He also went on and said he was so proud of all his guys in how hard they played. 

I realize the manager can't go overboard and blast his players too hard to the media, but he better at some point have a closed door team meeting and blast the crap out of them privately.

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13 minutes ago, reiks12 said:

This year is going to be downright bad, but next year is going to be absolutely dreadful. We only have Kopech and Cease returning. When Kopech goes down to a hamstring injury (white sox tradition), our #2 starter is going to be a callup from the worst farm system in the game.

Stop giving your money to Reinsdorf

I agree it's all in the hands of the fans. Until they stop going and letting Reinsdorf and the FO see an empty stadium, the same crap will keep being put on the field. 

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51 minutes ago, reiks12 said:

This year is going to be downright bad, but next year is going to be absolutely dreadful. We only have Kopech and Cease returning. When Kopech goes down to a hamstring injury (white sox tradition), our #2 starter is going to be a callup from the worst farm system in the game.

Stop giving your money to Reinsdorf

Clevinger will likely be back next year. They will also sign a couple of veterans like Rich Hill and Danny Duffy to 1 year deals and hope to catch lighting in a bottle with them. 

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37 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said:

I agree it's all in the hands of the fans. Until they stop going and letting Reinsdorf and the FO see an empty stadium, the same crap will keep being put on the field. 

That would play a factor but not as much as you think. It's not the 1960's anymore...MLB is a 10 Billion dollar a year business. The amount of money coming in to the teams from domestic and international sources is staggering.

Even if the Sox were to draw say 800,000 for a season it wouldn't move the needle much, JR has already shown he doesn't care, they'd still be getting revenue from national and local TV/radio/advertising contracts which is a tremendous amount and then he'd just order Hahn to slice the payroll down to the bone (like during the rebuild years when the Sox had some of the lowest payrolls in MLB) and he'd make even more profit.

Literally the only thing that can change the equation is JR leaving the scene and new ownership coming in.

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Why isn’t anyone saying that it is way too early to panic and we have plenty of time to turn it around? That is the normal comment abut how we are playing right now. Too small a sample for us to judge this team. Wait till the weather warms up, and when everyone gets healthy and when our manager gets a few more games under his belt, and Hahn brings in a couple of players that can help us or for Jerry to die or sell the team. 

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Why isn’t anyone saying that it is way too early to panic and we have plenty of time to turn it around? That is the normal comment abut how we are playing right now. Too small a sample for us to judge this team. Wait till the weather warms up, and when everyone gets healthy and when our manager gets a few more games under his belt, and Hahn brings in a couple of players that can help us or for Jerry to die or sell the team. 

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9 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

That would play a factor but not as much as you think. It's not the 1960's anymore...MLB is a 10 Billion dollar a year business. The amount of money coming in to the teams from domestic and international sources is staggering.

Even if the Sox were to draw say 800,000 for a season it wouldn't move the needle much, JR has already shown he doesn't care, they'd still be getting revenue from national and local TV/radio/advertising contracts which is a tremendous amount and then he'd just order Hahn to slice the payroll down to the bone (like during the rebuild years when the Sox had some of the lowest payrolls in MLB) and he'd make even more profit.

Literally the only thing that can change the equation is JR leaving the scene and new ownership coming in.

You are probably totally right about the money aspect, but it would be an ugly look for Jerry to watch only  8-10k or even hopefully much less fans showing up. I would love Jerry to have to witness that.

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1 minute ago, The Kids Can Play said:

You are probably totally right about the money aspect, but it would be an ugly look for Jerry to watch only  8-10k or even hopefully much less fans showing up. I would love Jerry to have to witness that.

He's seen it before and it doesn't bother him one iota. 

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