JoeC Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: But do you trust the inept Angels organization to build with trade return what they can’t with standard drafting and ML scouting? I don’t trust the White Sox to do that certainly. My plan is to follow individual players I like and stop thinking this stupid org is going to win anything soon. Luis Robert remains a player I like to watch and root for. There’s a few on this team. There’s no way this clown show of an org will win anything ever again in mine or your lifetime. Once you let all that go and just get back to enjoying whatever about this shitshow you can, things get a lot better Yeah, I guess you and I are after different things, then. Cordially agree to disagree, then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, JoeC said: Yeah, I guess you and I are after different things, then. Cordially agree to disagree, then. Yes, I would like this team to win a championship. There is not a chance they will be able to do that while Reinsdorf is still owner, because you would have to luck into the perfect storm of player development, trades, FA signings, and timing that represents a 1 in 100,000,000,000,000 chance that occupies the calendar year of our Jerry 2005. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: Yes, I would like this team to win a championship. There is not a chance they will be able to do that while Reinsdorf is still owner, because you would have to luck into the perfect storm of player development, trades, FA signings, and timing that represents a 1 in 100,000,000,000,000 chance that occupies the calendar year of our Jerry 2005. Hence why the betting odds for the White Sox this year to win the 2023 World Series championship is currently at +15,000. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: Controlled through 27. Thanks for the correction. Point still remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4uckOffCommieScum Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Greg Hibbard said: Yes, I would like this team to win a championship. There is not a chance they will be able to do that while Reinsdorf is still owner, because you would have to luck into the perfect storm of player development, trades, FA signings, and timing that represents a 1 in 100,000,000,000,000 chance that occupies the calendar year of our Jerry 2005. How can there be no chance to win a championship under the current ownership when it already happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said: How can there be no chance to win a championship under the current ownership when it already happened In 2005. Time changes things. I have no confidence this ownership group and front office, as it now is, will win another championship soon. Edited June 24, 2023 by Saufley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 49 minutes ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said: How can there be no chance to win a championship under the current ownership when it already happened I don’t think he said zero chance. Of course mathematically, by dumb luck you would have expected the White Sox to have appeared in three World Series in the 42 years Reinsdorf has owned the team. So his failure to do this May in fact imply a zero percent chance of winning from here on out. KC has been in three and won two. Cleveland has been in three. Minnesota has been in two and won two. Detroit has been in three and won once. From the old AL West Oakland has been in three and won one. Texas has been in two. The Angels have only appeared in and won one like the Sox. Only Seattle from that division has not been in the World Series. So given Reinsdorf’s epic level of fail, I probably would agree there is zero chance as long as he remains owner, even though the OP did give them a non-zero chance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) During the Yankee series we made it to 7 under .500 and had a better record than the Cubs who are hotter than hell right now, is there any hope at all of the Sox getting hot, I’m not too optimistic but you never know. Edited June 24, 2023 by The Mighty Mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 5 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: During the Yankee series we made it to 7 under .500 and had a better record than the Cubs who are hotter than hell right now, is there any hope at all of the Sox getting hot, I’m not too optimistic but you never know. This team doesn't draw walks, doesn't get on base, the highest BA they have is .275, only hit solo home runs, can't keep anybody healthy for more than a week, have a clueless manager, a bullpen that has already lost games nine times where they had a lead in the 7th inning or later and after they unload guys at the deadline will be basically a Triple A team. So the answer is no. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 Bump. 100% a lock at this point. Hell, 100 losses is a distinct possibility if Hahn and company actually accept reality and make some trades before the deadline. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, LittleHurtCG said: Bump. 100% a lock at this point. Hell, 100 losses is a distinct possibility if Hahn and company actually accept reality and make some trades before the deadline. They will need to go 35-38 the rest of the way to have 90 losses. Seeing as how they are probably going to be 10+ out approaching the deadline, I would assume they will be trading away players. 90 losses should be a lock. 25-48 would then get them to 100 losses, which seems hard to believe even if they do trade away some players. I don't think we will see 100 losses. Unless of course they go full blown sell off and trade guys like Cease or Robert, but I don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Man, I remember when this thread started and I still believed. How naive I was. Now 90 losses seems optimistic. If they sell, which they should, 95-100 losses is likely. Oddly, the team will probably be more fun to watch afterwards. Right now it's torture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Man, I remember when this thread started and I still believed. How naive I was. Now 90 losses seems optimistic. If they sell, which they should, 95-100 losses is likely. Oddly, the team will probably be more fun to watch afterwards. Right now it's torture. When you factor in what we actually have available to trade and the remaining schedule, I just don't see how its possible to be 25 games under .500 the rest of the way. Were talking about Giolito and probably some bullpen arms, there's not really anything else to trade that will negatively impact the team. The Royals and A's are going to lose 100 games easy. We will still have some competent players or people who can start performing to their capabilities and the easiest SOS the rest of the season. I would peg them for 90-93 losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, T R U said: When you factor in what we actually have available to trade and the remaining schedule, I just don't see how its possible to be 25 games under .500 the rest of the way. Were talking about Giolito and probably some bullpen arms, there's not really anything else to trade that will negatively impact the team. The Royals and A's are going to lose 100 games easy. We will still have some competent players or people who can start performing to their capabilities and the easiest SOS the rest of the season. I would peg them for 90-93 losses. With the lottery, bottom three records have the same odds for the number 1 pick. Sox don’t have to catch A’s and Royals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Another Jay Cuda banger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 7:52 PM, Lip Man 1 said: This team doesn't draw walks, doesn't get on base, the highest BA they have is .275, only hit solo home runs, can't keep anybody healthy for more than a week, have a clueless manager, a bullpen that has already lost games nine times where they had a lead in the 7th inning or later and after they unload guys at the deadline will be basically a Triple A team. So the answer is no. Must you nitpick Lip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Timmy U said: With the lottery, bottom three records have the same odds for the number 1 pick. Sox don’t have to catch A’s and Royals. That's great news because that seems impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 4 hours ago, T R U said: They will need to go 35-38 the rest of the way to have 90 losses. Seeing as how they are probably going to be 10+ out approaching the deadline, I would assume they will be trading away players. 90 losses should be a lock. 25-48 would then get them to 100 losses, which seems hard to believe even if they do trade away some players. I don't think we will see 100 losses. Unless of course they go full blown sell off and trade guys like Cease or Robert, but I don't see it. Agreed. 90 seems about right but I could see as high as 95. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 8:52 PM, Lip Man 1 said: This team doesn't draw walks, doesn't get on base, the highest BA they have is .275, only hit solo home runs, can't keep anybody healthy for more than a week, have a clueless manager, a bullpen that has already lost games nine times where they had a lead in the 7th inning or later and after they unload guys at the deadline will be basically a Triple A team. So the answer is no. Andrew B is at .282. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, The Mighty Mite said: Andrew B is at .282. You are replying to a post made on June 24. After the game on June 23, Andrew Benintendi's batting average was precisely .275. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Andrew B is at .282. My comment was posted on June 24. And the staff has now had a lead 11 times in the 7th inning or later...and lost the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said: Agreed. 90 seems about right but I could see as high as 95. Does this mean the championship window is closed? This organization is pathetic! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: My comment was posted on June 24. And the staff has now had a lead 11 times in the 7th inning or later...and lost the game. Oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Timmy U said: With the lottery, bottom three records have the same odds for the number 1 pick. Sox don’t have to catch A’s and Royals. I meant we have more talent than those teams, we’re not going to lose 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Saufley said: Does this mean the championship window is closed? This organization is pathetic! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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