Ozzie for Manager Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 I saw Kurtz in the regional. Slow and looks like Gavin Sheets part 2. Stay far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 17 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Like I said, in recent years if it had been just Vaughn, you could chalk it up to White Sox being White Sox and hope recent changes would make a difference, but when a guy like Torkelson, who had every bit the offensive hype that Cags has had, ends up being another Andrew Vaughn, it should raise some red flags, especially combined with fears of the baseball being juiced in college this year. Brendan McKay, Prato, Evan White its been a bloodbath. might as well convince yourself this is the short, right handed prep pitcher that is actually gonna be the one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 5th Overall White Sox slot value is $7,763,700 Doubt Jac Caglianone is cutting a deal and White Sox got into this mess by stockpiling athletically limited corner only profiles If the 2 Top Preps will take 85% of slot value, that’s the direction CWS will go. Konnor Griffin…. — MLBExecutiveBurner (@HotStoveintel) June 18, 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 22 minutes ago, WestEddy said: 5th Overall White Sox slot value is $7,763,700 Doubt Jac Caglianone is cutting a deal and White Sox got into this mess by stockpiling athletically limited corner only profiles If the 2 Top Preps will take 85% of slot value, that’s the direction CWS will go. Konnor Griffin…. — MLBExecutiveBurner (@HotStoveintel) June 18, 2024 That's basically what Jimmy says. Harold.....you sure you heard Jac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 I really like Charlie Condon (he's 6'6), and my kinda hope is that we have a marcelo mayer type situation where a bunch try to get discounts, and he drops and sox can use the mariners pick to pay him as he drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, bmags said: I really like Charlie Condon (he's 6'6), and my kinda hope is that we have a marcelo mayer type situation where a bunch try to get discounts, and he drops and sox can use the mariners pick to pay him as he drops. I actually think Condon and Bazzana might be the only guys the Sox would pay full slot for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 There are people who don't like Condon's swing and there are rumors of some shady stuff going on at Georgia. I think they have Wetherholt over Bazzana. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 18 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: There are people who don't like Condon's swing and there are rumors of some shady stuff going on at Georgia. I think they have Wetherholt over Bazzana. Yeah I actually think Wetherholt is a possibility if they go college at 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 How about concerns about Jac having some arm issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 They're saying he's just tired but it's hard to imagine that's all it is. It sucks. Hopefully it's not something too serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Is Cags a 1B because he is also a pitcher and doesn't have time for defense, or is it because he couldn't pass as something like a LF or 3B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 27 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Is Cags a 1B because he is also a pitcher and doesn't have time for defense, or is it because he couldn't pass as something like a LF or 3B? Don’t see too many LH 3B’s around. Not sure about LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 32 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Is Cags a 1B because he is also a pitcher and doesn't have time for defense, or is it because he couldn't pass as something like a LF or 3B? I’ve heard both. I’m sure he could stand in left field. Again though, in this class, I just don’t see a reason to take a corner profile at 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 (edited) Law new mock. Will share the top 5 with blurbs and list out the top 10. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5572706/2024/06/19/mlb-mock-draft-2024-charlie-condon-bryce-rainer/ Quote 1. Cleveland Guardians: Charlie Condon, OF, Georgia I doubt we’ll know Cleveland’s pick until the day of the draft, but other teams think it’ll be Oregon State second baseman Travis Bazzana or Condon, with one rumor that the Guardians were looking at going way under slot with high school position player Konnor Griffin. If West Virginia infielder JJ Wetherholt’s medicals check out, though, I would imagine they’d explore a deal with him, thinking he was good enough to be a 1-1 candidate coming into the spring. Cleveland picks again at 36 and 48, so they can get creative with some high school pitching if they want to. 2. Cincinnati Reds: Travis Bazzana, 2B, Oregon State I’d be surprised if this was anyone but Condon or Bazzana, or maybe Wake Forest right-hander Chase Burns. The Reds don’t pick again until No. 51, which is a good argument for going full slot here and getting the best player available. 3. Colorado Rockies: Jac Caglianone, 1B/LHP, Florida I assume that if the Rockies do this, they’ll make Caglianone a full-time hitter rather than risk a second Tommy John surgery at some point, given their organization’s recent run of elbow surgeries for top prospects. I’ve also heard them associated with the two main college arms, Burns and Arkansas’ Hagen Smith. 4. Oakland A’s: Nick Kurtz, 1B, Wake Forest I’ve heard this will be a college hitter – Bazzana, Kurtz, maybe Wetherholt, assuming Condon is gone. 5. Chicago White Sox: JJ Wetherholt, SS, West Virginia Wetherholt’s spot will come down to what team doctors think about his hamstring injuries. The White Sox have been linked to him, Burns, Caglianone and Griffin. Quote 6.) Royals - Burns 7.) Cardinals - Rainer 8.) Angels - Smith 9.) Pirates - Tibbs 10.) Nationals - Montgomery Edited June 19 by DirtySox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, DirtySox said: Law new mock. Will share the top 5 with blurbs and list out the top 10. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5572706/2024/06/19/mlb-mock-draft-2024-charlie-condon-bryce-rainer/ Hamstring injuries and the Sox? What could possibly go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, DirtySox said: Law new mock. Will share the top 5 with blurbs and list out the top 10. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5572706/2024/06/19/mlb-mock-draft-2024-charlie-condon-bryce-rainer/ That would be the ideal 1-4 for us.. And then we go with Wetherholt.. grr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: That would be the ideal 1-4 for us.. And then we go with Wetherholt.. grr. If they take a college guy at 5, I hope it’s Wetherholt. I bet he ends up going 1:1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 I want Wetherholt very much personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Kiley McDaniel with a two round mock at ESPN. 5. Jac Caglianone 43. Joey Oakie Iowa prep RHP 68. Connor Foley, RHP, Indiana Oakie played for Sox Area Codes team. Foley was a standout athlete in Indiana. Both make sense but I would hate this strategy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 Ooh. I like Oakie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 The draft is deep in HS arms. It wouldn't surprise me if they used both 2nd rounds on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 6 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The draft is deep in HS arms. It wouldn't surprise me if they used both 2nd rounds on them. It’s just so risky. They need bats badly and their history with preps arms is bad. Oakie and Bateman seem like two guys they like though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: It’s just so risky. They need bats badly and their history with preps arms is bad. Oakie and Bateman seem like two guys they like though. They can't invent guys. If they have arms evaluted higher they have to take them. Owen Hall and Blake Larson are a couple others they like. Levi Sterling too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 31 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: If they take a college guy at 5, I hope it’s Wetherholt. I bet he ends up going 1:1 28 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I want Wetherholt very much personally. Maybe I need to re-read on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Cags just went deep again. Unless I'm mistaken, his numbers are vastly superior to other 1B taken at the top of the draft recently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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