southsider2k5 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Quin said: Mayo's new mock has the Sox taking Cags https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2024-mock-draft-may-30?partnerID=web_article-share I feel like this would become the most contentious pick in this board's history. Some (me) would be ecstatic. Others would rue it. If it were just Vaughn I would be less scared, but seeing Torkelson on the same road makes it more scary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 4 hours ago, Quin said: Mayo's new mock has the Sox taking Cags https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2024-mock-draft-may-30?partnerID=web_article-share I feel like this would become the most contentious pick in this board's history. Some (me) would be ecstatic. Others would rue it. I feel like we're often on the same page with draft prospects that we covet. I did see that our guy Jakson Reetz was playing the Majors recently with the Giants. We both really wanted the Sox to get him in the 3rd RD when they took Jace Fry instead. That was 2014! 10 years ago! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I would not draft a college 1b. It’s not just Vaughn and Torkelson. There’s also Pavin Smith, Nolan Schanual made to the majors but he’s not gonna be an impact bat. Jacob Berry looks like a bust. Remember Michael Toglia? Cuz I don’t. First rounder out of UCLA. How about Logan Davidson? May I interest you in Seth Beer? Point is, college 1b is a risky demo. If the Sox believe Cags can play a corner of, I would be better with it. Personally, I want someone who can at least start up the middle when picking 1-5. But I will admit, Sox do need impact bats. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 New BA mock.... "5. White Sox — JJ Wetherholt, SS, West Virginia A lack of playing time thanks to a hamstring injury hurt Wetherholt’s draft stock. Since he’s been back in West Virginia’s lineup he’s been the exact player he was expected to be entering the season. Wetherholt is a career .376/.500/.663 hitter with West Virginia and his underlying batted ball data is remarkably similar to Travis Bazzana’s. Bazzana has done a better job pulling the ball in the air to capitalize on his power, but I’m not sure there’s a significant raw power difference between the two. The biggest separator for Wetherholt is the fact that he’s actively playing shortstop. That gives him a chance for the best defensive value of any of the top six college hitters in the class and if there’s a thought that his hit/power combo is as good as Bazzana’s, why couldn’t he fit at the very top of the class?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 31 Author Share Posted May 31 I actually don't hate Wetherholt. Might be on an island here with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 31 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I actually don't hate Wetherholt. Might be on an island here with that. I don't hate him, but I would say the worst pairing in the world would have to be Wetherholts soft tissue and the chicago white sox. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I would have a big open mind for all the position players we've discussed, though just can't pull trigger for the 1bs. The big reason : there is no big chasm between Keith Law's rankings and these middle infielders even if their profiles don't scream out to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 8 minutes ago, bmags said: I don't hate him, but I would say the worst pairing in the world would have to be Wetherholts soft tissue and the chicago white sox. This is a spectacular turn of phrase and I am here for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I'm leaning Konnor Griffin right now. Give me the young, tooled up outfielder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 3 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: New BA mock.... "5. White Sox — JJ Wetherholt, SS, West Virginia A lack of playing time thanks to a hamstring injury hurt Wetherholt’s draft stock. Since he’s been back in West Virginia’s lineup he’s been the exact player he was expected to be entering the season. Wetherholt is a career .376/.500/.663 hitter with West Virginia and his underlying batted ball data is remarkably similar to Travis Bazzana’s. Bazzana has done a better job pulling the ball in the air to capitalize on his power, but I’m not sure there’s a significant raw power difference between the two. The biggest separator for Wetherholt is the fact that he’s actively playing shortstop. That gives him a chance for the best defensive value of any of the top six college hitters in the class and if there’s a thought that his hit/power combo is as good as Bazzana’s, why couldn’t he fit at the very top of the class?" The White Sox think Wetherholt is a second baseman. I’d be shocked by that pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 3 hours ago, Boopa1219 said: I'm leaning Konnor Griffin right now. Give me the young, tooled up outfielder. Like everything except the handedness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 19 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said: Like everything except the handedness. Which doesn’t really matter at the end of the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Burns vs Yesavage on right now ESPN 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 23 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: Burns vs Yesavage on right now ESPN 2 Yesavage was just filthy in the first. Burns obviously dominant too but seems like a bit less command today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie for Manager Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 6 hours ago, Rusty_Kuntz said: Yesavage was just filthy in the first. Burns obviously dominant too but seems like a bit less command today. I was at the game. About 15 scouts there. Difference in the 2 was Yesavage had a rough patch around the 4th but never seemed to get rattled and regained command. Burns was cocky early on, lost some control, got hit a bit, and didn't recover. Trey Yesavage 7.1 inn. 1 hit, 1 run, 4 walks, 6 Ks. Chase Burns 5 inn 5 hits, 4 runs, 4 walks, 7 Ks. Both would be great picks. Trey moved up today. Maybe top 10ish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 30 minutes ago, pmb0928 said: I was at the game. About 15 scouts there. Difference in the 2 was Yesavage had a rough patch around the 4th but never seemed to get rattled and regained command. Burns was cocky early on, lost some control, got hit a bit, and didn't recover. Trey Yesavage 7.1 inn. 1 hit, 1 run, 4 walks, 6 Ks. Chase Burns 5 inn 5 hits, 4 runs, 4 walks, 7 Ks. Both would be great picks. Trey moved up today. Maybe top 10ish. I really like Yesavage, although I think if they go SP it will be Smith if he's there. His ceiling is really really high imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie for Manager Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 49 minutes ago, Rusty_Kuntz said: I really like Yesavage, although I think if they go SP it will be Smith if he's there. His ceiling is really really high imo. Don't think Smith is going to be there. Another thing I like about Yesavage is I think he is less injury prone. His delivery is simple. He is built thick and strong, has not missed any starts outside of last week when he had a punctured lung from dry needling apparently and he recovered just fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie for Manager Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 On 5/28/2024 at 7:20 PM, Johno said: i can’t believe i’m going to say this, but i won’t mind if the Sox draft the first baseman Kurtz. The kid can absolutely take and he’s a lefty! Saw him this weekend. Stay as far away from him as you can. Gavin Sheets 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 That is a funky short arm. https://x.com/BaseballAmerica/status/1797083760745177292?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) On 5/31/2024 at 9:08 AM, DirtySox said: I actually don't hate Wetherholt. Might be on an island here with that. He's still my choice, although I get the misgivings. He's got a smooth swing; a lot of these guys have noisy swings. I don't like any of these college pitchers early. Maybe there's a pre guy out there that it makes sense. Maybe a reach/underslot, although I'm not sure the Sox are sharp enough can pull that entire sequence off. Edited June 2 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) 17 hours ago, GreenSox said: He's still my choice, although I get the misgivings. He's got a smooth swing; a lot of these guys have noisy swings. I don't like any of these college pitchers early. Maybe there's a pre guy out there that it makes sense. Maybe a reach/underslot, although I'm not sure the Sox are sharp enough can pull that entire sequence off. I’d say they’ve been pretty good about manipulating their bonus pools. They’ve also shown a willingness to spend over the bonus pools on multiple occasions, to the fullest extend without incurring a penalty Edited June 2 by Boopa1219 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Boopa1219 said: I’d say they’ve been pretty good about manipulating their bonus pools. They’ve also shown a willingness to spend over the bonus pools on multiple occasions, to the fullest extend without incurring a penalty The only time that I remember the Sox doing an underslot in the first round was Burger; and then they used the savings on Sheets who didn't need to be paid overslot. I've seen the Sox overslot various rounds and then pay for it by punting several other rounds; the extent to which that approach has netted positive results remains to be seen. Edited June 2 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 2 hours ago, GreenSox said: The only time that I remember the Sox doing an underslot in the first round was Burger; and then they used the savings on Sheets who didn't need to be paid overslot. I've seen the Sox overslot various rounds and then pay for it by punting several other rounds; the extent to which that approach has netted positive results remains to be seen. Gonzalez was underslot last year. It helped to pay for Wolkow and Oppor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 17 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Gonzalez was underslot last year. It helped to pay for Wolkow and Oppor Thanks. While Gonzalez wasn't the preferred choice of most, he wasn't a huge reach either. Also only significantly punted 1 round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Callis mocked Cags again to the Sox today but said it's wide open. He also mentioned Montgomery, Griffin, and Rainer. Seems to think they go hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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