YonderLaroche Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Rays schooled this organization with a sweep a fraction of payroll and best record in baseball. 8 games under 500 with the injuries should be 500. What a disaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YonderLaroche Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 I think we are signing all these has beens to minor deals so they can trade off the team. Not much depth need to rebuild 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Smart teams bid adieu to the Lance Lynn's and fill the void from their player development stockpile. Dumb teams sign the Lance Lynn's because they don't have a clue what player development is. Sorry Lance, that I had to use you as an example. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 9 hours ago, bryank1202 said: Rays schooled this organization with a sweep a fraction of payroll and best record in baseball. 8 games under 500 with the injuries should be 500. What a disaster Damnit JR for spending too much money. How many time have we complained about his over spending? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 12 hours ago, bryank1202 said: Rays schooled this organization with a sweep a fraction of payroll and best record in baseball. 8 games under 500 with the injuries should be 500. What a disaster Schooled is a great term for how the Rays took all three from the Sox. You're not kidding with a fraction of the Sox salary. The Rays starting lineup from yesterday's game: 1. Yandy Diaz 1B - $6,000,000 2. Wander Franco SS - $2,454,545 3. Randy Arozarena LF - $4,150,000 4. Brandon Lowe 2B - $5,250,000 5. Harold Ramirez DH - $2,454,545 6. Issac Paredes 3B - $735,000 7. Luke Raley RF - $722,300 8. Christian Bethancourt C -$1,350,000 9. Manuel Margot CF - $7,000,000 Zach Eflin SP - $11,000,000 Rays other SP's Shane McClanahan - $737,000 Drew Rasmussen - $739,700 Taj Bradley - $720,000 Kevin Kelly - $720,000 Tyler Glasnow - 15 Day IL - $5,350,000 Rays bullpen used during 3 game Sox sweep Cooper Criswell - $720,000 Garrett Cleavinger - $725,000 Jason Adam - $1,775,000 Colin Poche - $1,175,000 Yonny Chirinos - $1,275,000 Jalen Beeks - $1,375,000 Pete Fairbanks - $3,666,666 That my Sox friends is the blueprint for an organization that completely understands and implements how a baseball team should properly Scout, Draft, Sign FA's, Make solid trades and most importantly, DEVELOP talent in their farm system. They have been doing this for the last 15 years in arguably the toughest division in baseball. It is so damn irritating our Owner and FO don't have an ounce of a F*^king clue to this blueprint concept. 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I have had a very somber moment. JR has stated the Sox won't be sold till he dies. JR is 87. A new owner would likely want his own people. So if Hahn if fired, what competent person takes the job knowing it is likely a short term gig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 This is a bottom 5 team in baseball right now, easily. Just pitiful. With 3 at Toronto and 4 more vs TB upcoming? This ship could be sunken before it even gets out of the port. 8-21? 9-20? That would (most likely) be all she wrote for 2023. We don't have the fire power to dig ourselves out of that hole. Nor have we ever displayed anything, even remotely resembling, the chemistry as a unit required to go on a big run. It would take everything we have just to get back to .500 at that point. A lost season by the end of April could be our reality. Just amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I wonder how many teams that didn't win a series or win 2 games in a row the first month of the season, made the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Texsox said: Damnit JR for spending too much money. How many time have we complained about his over spending? Don't tell me what you spent, tell me how you spent it. Like having the most expensive bullpen in MLB that also has the highest ERA. This is from a week ago but I imagine not much has changed since then. Edited April 24, 2023 by Iwritecode 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, Iwritecode said: Don't tell me what you spent, tell me how you spent it. Like having the most expensive bullpen in MLB that also has the highest ERA. This is from a week ago but I imagine not much has changed since then. Sucks most of the money is going to a guy fighting cancer and not playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, Texsox said: Sucks most of the money is going to a guy fighting cancer and not playing. I mean obviously nobody could've for-seen that. But should the closer really have the 3rd highest AAV on the team? Just saying they spent a lot of money doesn't mean they've spent it wisely. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 43 minutes ago, Iwritecode said: I mean obviously nobody could've for-seen that. But should the closer really have the 3rd highest AAV on the team? Just saying they spent a lot of money doesn't mean they've spent it wisely. I agree. My original response was to highlight the anomaly of the Rays having a small payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Dick Allen said: I wonder how many teams that didn't win a series or win 2 games in a row the first month of the season, made the playoffs. I wonder how many teams didn’t win a series or win 2 games in a row the month of the season, ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 How do you get out of this mess other than JR crossing the rainbow bridge? There just seems to be nothing to grab on to for hope. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Iwritecode said: I mean obviously nobody could've for-seen that. But should the closer really have the 3rd highest AAV on the team? Just saying they spent a lot of money doesn't mean they've spent it wisely. If you go all the way back to Roberto Hernandez and Thigpen, the Sox have always excelled when they developed their own closers or found them on the cheap outside the organization. Koch Robertson and Hendriks are the three counter examples here. Arguably, the 2020 team was better off with the relatively cheap Colome... but the opportunity cost was Narvaez and that eventually led to overpaying for another aging veteran in Grandal. (Ofc, Zack Collins never developing as a #1 catcher was an equally egregious blunder.) Edited April 25, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 10 hours ago, BamaDoc said: I have had a very somber moment. JR has stated the Sox won't be sold till he dies. JR is 87. A new owner would likely want his own people. So if Hahn if fired, what competent person takes the job knowing it is likely a short term gig? We are all assuming Hahn will be fired after this season, but deep down does anyone truly believe it will happen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Line Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The Beast said: We are all assuming Hahn will be fired after this season, but deep down does anyone truly believe it will happen? If anything they'll just give him a "promotion" like KW. Jerry is nothing if not loyal! Then next year we can have THREE general managers, the official one and 2 pseudo. Edited April 25, 2023 by Green Line 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 https://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance White Sox have surged to 21st in attendance simply by not playing at home. Four AL Central teams lined up within 500 fans per night at #21-24 and then the hapless Royals at #27. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Beast said: We are all assuming Hahn will be fired after this season, but deep down does anyone truly believe it will happen? I’d be afraid he’d bring TLR back in a front office role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 14 hours ago, Texsox said: I agree. My original response was to highlight the anomaly of the Rays having a small payroll. That's true. They are kind of the exception to the rule. Although the Twins and Royals seem to get by with smaller payrolls more often than not as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Iwritecode said: That's true. They are kind of the exception to the rule. Although the Twins and Royals seem to get by with smaller payrolls more often than not as well. I just think the White Sox should have a huge advantage over their opponents in the AL Central. It really should be almost unfair. But JR's mom and pop operation has relagated the Sox to small market franchise in a lagre market, which is the worst of both worlds. He doesn't get the revenue sharing and extra draft picks small markets get. Not that it would make a difference with his choice of decision makets. But any other large market team in the AL Central would have dominated since inception. The White Sox have pretty much done the opposite of dominate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 14 hours ago, ShoeLessRob said: I’d be afraid he’d bring TLR back in a front office role. In that insanely dumb decision that Jerry fired Hahn but brought TLR back as GM or in any FO capacity, I will unequivocally be DONE being a Sox fan, until Jerry sells the team and is completely gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 14 hours ago, JTB said: How do you get out of this mess other than JR crossing the rainbow bridge? There just seems to be nothing to grab on to for hope. YEP! Terrible decision making and absolutely no leadership within this organization. JR not leaving much of a legacy with this 2023 team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Maybe JR’s latest effort at protecting TLR’s legacy is to make the team astronomically worse after Tony’s departure, making him seem better in comparison, thus salvaging his legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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