CubKilla Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I guess you can call me names if you want, if that makes you feel better. Who's calling you names ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 30, 2003 Author Share Posted October 30, 2003 This is the entertainment business the more you entertain (i.e. win,) the more revenue you will make. JR does not understand this. Look at the money the cub brought not only to wrigley but the city in general. The JR model is you spend first, then I spend. In the movie industy it would be like asking someone to pay for a movie ticket before the movie was made then based on who buys, then the movie is made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I did not look at this thread until just now. No to Weaver in every way shape and form and why would anyone think we need that losing jerk on our team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Weaver is a whiny little b****, I don't want him EVER to be wearing a White Sox uniform. Not only that but he's just down right sucked ever since he's put on Yankee pin stripes. CWSOX45 and this is wisdom in its most pure form! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 This is the entertainment business the more you entertain (i.e. win,) the more revenue you will make. JR does not understand this. Look at the money the cub brought not only to wrigley but the city in general. The JR model is you spend first, then I spend. In the movie industy it would be like asking someone to pay for a movie ticket before the movie was made then based on who buys, then the movie is made. Which is still a better philosophy then spending $100 million+ to make Waterworld! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkit Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Entertainment business... Is that where a guy like Kevin Costner asks you to spend a quadrillion dollars building a crazy set based entirely in water with no fiscal restraint? And then everyone at the studio leaves or gets fired? It's only the entertainment business if you look at the total picture. For example: Did you think about the backers of Waterworld? You do know they farm out to investors the risk on these pictures, right? The studios are just the people that distribute the movies. So, think of it like this...You are a business person that makes money investing in motion pictures. Kevin Costner comes to you and makes his pitch about Waterworld and you see the $200 million dollar budget and say no. Then, a bunch of Costner fans say nasty things about you because you refused to spend a crazy amount of money for a crazy movie...But as an investor that invests for a living, you'd have made a sound business decision. See, it's easy to throw out these analogiers and say it's like this or it's like that. But the truth is this: It's a business. Period. The Sox ownership apparently feel they can maximize revenues by spending roughly $60-ish million dollars in 2004. That's their right as owners. They get to run their business as they see fit. They don't owe you a big name player that they feel is demanding too much relative to their total salary structure. That's business. Forkit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Robin made the correct decision. He got a heck of a lot more money, and got to play in the World Series, something he wouldn't have done here. Believe me, Schueler knew there was no way Robin would have accepted his offer, or the offer would have been even lower. It was a token offer to show the fans they tried. I totally agree. They had months and months to negotiate with Robin, and waited until the last minute to lowball him. Robin worked his ass off to get back to playing as soon as he could after that horrible injury, he was a team and clubhouse leader and Sox management couldn't have cared less. Reinsdorf said Ventura was one of his favorite players and a guy he'd want his daughter to marry. But they didn't want him. Ventura said when they don't want you around, there isn't much you can do about it. So he left. I think it's wrong to lump Robin into the mountain of players who leap for the next high buck offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Speaking of Valentin, I find it quite humorous he says he will sign for less to stay with the Sox if they are going to be a contender. What is the going rate for a .230 hitting SS? I would offer Valentin $100 for each point in his batting average plus a signing bonus sufficient to bring that salary up to the league minimum. I'd take the $5+ million saved and use that for players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I would offer Valentin $100 for each point in his batting average plus a signing bonus sufficient to bring that salary up to the league minimum. I'd take the $5+ million saved and use that for players. I agree, if Jose Valentin stays with the White Sox this year we aren't going anywhere. The Sox are MUCH better off signing a shortstop or trading for one. CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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