With Garcia TJS, which Astros' outfield prospect or pitcher would you trade for?

[caulfield12]

https://www.mlb.com/news/houston-astros-top-30-prospects-list-2023-preseason

 

Assuming Giolito Lynn Clevinger all on the market along with pretty much any member of the bullpen paired with that starter... 

 

Catching prospect makes a lot of sense too if they can actually stick at that position. 

[FloydBannister1983]

13 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.mlb.com/news/houston-astros-top-30-prospects-list-2023-preseason

 

Assuming Giolito Lynn Clevinger all on the market along with pretty much any member of the bullpen paired with that starter... 

 

Catching prospect makes a lot of sense too if they can actually stick at that position. 

A better question would be: as bad as this bullpen has been, and as mediocre as Lynn and Giolito have been, what contender would part with their top prospects for pitchers that won’t help them?

[4uckOffCommieScum]

Giolitio is on pace for 5.5 WAR season

[wegner]

Instead of helping out the friggin Astros how about.....

 

[elrockinMT]

We are in this thing to win it. We still have a fighting chance with 130 +-  games left 

[caulfield12]

31 minutes ago, elrockinMT said:

We are in this thing to win it. We still have a fighting chance with 130 +-  games left 

Sure, we might agree with you had the division lead not reversed from potentially 6 to 8 games after blowing 4 consecutive chances to sweep Minnesota. 

That and having to beat three teams now instead of just 1-2. 

In the end, what do the Sox get out of losing Rodon Grandal Lynn Lopez Giolito, Graveman etc., with absolutely nothing back to show for it? 

Just another 5-7 years of mired in mediocrity. 

 

(Competing this year also requires Hendriks to come back at 100% too... and he doesn't look anywhere close yet physically.) 

Edited May 6, 2023 by caulfield12

[zisk]

Even if we traded with the Ass Tros, our front office would end up with a bag of magic beans anyway.

[TaylorStSox]

There's not much point in speculating in May.

[Lip Man 1]

1 hour ago, elrockinMT said:

We are in this thing to win it. We still have a fighting chance with 130 +-  games left 

Depends on your definition of 'fighting chance." All of the projections and odds now show the Sox have a very, very slim chance to do anything. Granted anything can happen but the reality is it very likely isn't... so when the time comes a smart organization acts accordingly. 

[MEANS]

3 hours ago, elrockinMT said:

We are in this thing to win it. We still have a fighting chance with 130 +-  games left 

They are done.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

48 minutes ago, MEANS said:

They are done.

More than likely, however the good news is if you are wrong, is that most agree with you and no one will come back to say you were wrong if you are indeed wrong.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

 

 

(Competing this year also requires Hendriks to come back at 100% too... and he doesn't look anywhere close yet physically.) 

If by anywhere close to 100% means he's back on the 26 in 2 weeks or less, then has to ramp up to get close to 100% for another couple weeks , the 1st couple weeks of June isn't so bad to put a guy in the pen who will more than likely be one of our best relievers.

[Lip Man 1]

13 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

If by anywhere close to 100% means he's back on the 26 in 2 weeks or less, then has to ramp up to get close to 100% for another couple weeks , the 1st couple weeks of June isn't so bad to put a guy in the pen who will more than likely be one of our best relievers.

At least until he's traded come July. 

[Chisoxmb35]

19 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.mlb.com/news/houston-astros-top-30-prospects-list-2023-preseason

 

Assuming Giolito Lynn Clevinger all on the market along with pretty much any member of the bullpen paired with that starter... 

 

Catching prospect makes a lot of sense too if they can actually stick at that position. 

Unless Rick Hahn gets fired, the White Sox are not going to trade anyone of note, let alone starting pitching. 

[caulfield12]

48 minutes ago, Chisoxmb35 said:

Unless Rick Hahn gets fired, the White Sox are not going to trade anyone of note, let alone starting pitching. 

Who's going to stop them/him, Putin? 

[Flash]

a bit too soon to formally surrender but I can see Gio (maybe in a package including TA) to the Dodgers.

[GreenSox]

22 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.mlb.com/news/houston-astros-top-30-prospects-list-2023-preseason

 

Assuming Giolito Lynn Clevinger all on the market along with pretty much any member of the bullpen paired with that starter... 

 

Catching prospect makes a lot of sense too if they can actually stick at that position. 

I'm sure Rick will be scouring the bullpens of the potential targets.

Of course, he should have his scouts dispatched readying for this.  But that's too much work.

[South Side Hit Men]

25 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

I'm sure Rick will be scouring the bullpens of the potential targets.

Of course, he should have his scouts dispatched readying for this.  But that's too much work.

Jerry is too broke to pay for scouts.

 

 

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Jerry is too broke to pay for scouts.

 

 

Forecasting a complete turnaround of the organization? 

It certainly can't be Hahn bringing in a new team... or God forbid handing over the keys to Getz. 

[PitchatRisktoZisk]

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Forecasting a complete turnaround of the organization? 

It certainly can't be Hahn bringing in a new team... or God forbid handing over the keys to Getz. 

That was the 2020 "using Covid to cover up gutting the Ops department" move after the season that never really happened. 

[pcq]

8 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Forecasting a complete turnaround of the organization? 

It certainly can't be Hahn bringing in a new team... or God forbid handing over the keys to Getz. 

Lol no scouts need apply. Looking forward to White Sox night at Seatgeek Stadium. 

[kitekrazy]

On 5/6/2023 at 9:25 AM, FloydBannister1983 said:

A better question would be: as bad as this bullpen has been, and as mediocre as Lynn and Giolito have been, what contender would part with their top prospects for pitchers that won’t help them?

Not necessary.  Sox scouting is easily fooled.

[Boopa1219]

Drew Gilbert.

There was a ton of smoke connecting him to the Sox during the last draft season. He kinda checks a lot of their boxes 

[dohnut]

On 5/6/2023 at 1:05 PM, caulfield12 said:

Sure, we might agree with you had the division lead not reversed from potentially 6 to 8 games after blowing 4 consecutive chances to sweep Minnesota. 

That and having to beat three teams now instead of just 1-2. 

In the end, what do the Sox get out of losing Rodon Grandal Lynn Lopez Giolito, Graveman etc., with absolutely nothing back to show for it? 

Just another 5-7 years of mired in mediocrity. 

 

(Competing this year also requires Hendriks to come back at 100% too... and he doesn't look anywhere close yet physically.) 

If we can get anything for Rodon, we should take it.

[caulfield12]

40 minutes ago, dohnut said:

If we can get anything for Rodon, we should take it.

Well, we ALREADY lost Rodon, Heuer, Madrigal, etc. 

AJ Pollock, in a way... thankfully.  Except that led directly to Benintendi.  So Pollock ended up eating into a lot of future financial flexibilty already (due to his dislike for staying another year with the Sox) while costing himself a good bit of change in the process.