caulfield12 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 https://www.mlb.com/news/houston-astros-top-30-prospects-list-2023-preseason Assuming Giolito Lynn Clevinger all on the market along with pretty much any member of the bullpen paired with that starter... Catching prospect makes a lot of sense too if they can actually stick at that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 13 hours ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.mlb.com/news/houston-astros-top-30-prospects-list-2023-preseason Assuming Giolito Lynn Clevinger all on the market along with pretty much any member of the bullpen paired with that starter... Catching prospect makes a lot of sense too if they can actually stick at that position. A better question would be: as bad as this bullpen has been, and as mediocre as Lynn and Giolito have been, what contender would part with their top prospects for pitchers that won’t help them? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4uckOffCommieScum Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Giolitio is on pace for 5.5 WAR season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Instead of helping out the friggin Astros how about..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 We are in this thing to win it. We still have a fighting chance with 130 +- games left 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, elrockinMT said: We are in this thing to win it. We still have a fighting chance with 130 +- games left Sure, we might agree with you had the division lead not reversed from potentially 6 to 8 games after blowing 4 consecutive chances to sweep Minnesota. That and having to beat three teams now instead of just 1-2. In the end, what do the Sox get out of losing Rodon Grandal Lynn Lopez Giolito, Graveman etc., with absolutely nothing back to show for it? Just another 5-7 years of mired in mediocrity. (Competing this year also requires Hendriks to come back at 100% too... and he doesn't look anywhere close yet physically.) Edited May 6, 2023 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Even if we traded with the Ass Tros, our front office would end up with a bag of magic beans anyway. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 There's not much point in speculating in May. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 1 hour ago, elrockinMT said: We are in this thing to win it. We still have a fighting chance with 130 +- games left Depends on your definition of 'fighting chance." All of the projections and odds now show the Sox have a very, very slim chance to do anything. Granted anything can happen but the reality is it very likely isn't... so when the time comes a smart organization acts accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 3 hours ago, elrockinMT said: We are in this thing to win it. We still have a fighting chance with 130 +- games left They are done. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, MEANS said: They are done. More than likely, however the good news is if you are wrong, is that most agree with you and no one will come back to say you were wrong if you are indeed wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 3 hours ago, caulfield12 said: (Competing this year also requires Hendriks to come back at 100% too... and he doesn't look anywhere close yet physically.) If by anywhere close to 100% means he's back on the 26 in 2 weeks or less, then has to ramp up to get close to 100% for another couple weeks , the 1st couple weeks of June isn't so bad to put a guy in the pen who will more than likely be one of our best relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: If by anywhere close to 100% means he's back on the 26 in 2 weeks or less, then has to ramp up to get close to 100% for another couple weeks , the 1st couple weeks of June isn't so bad to put a guy in the pen who will more than likely be one of our best relievers. At least until he's traded come July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmb35 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 19 hours ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.mlb.com/news/houston-astros-top-30-prospects-list-2023-preseason Assuming Giolito Lynn Clevinger all on the market along with pretty much any member of the bullpen paired with that starter... Catching prospect makes a lot of sense too if they can actually stick at that position. Unless Rick Hahn gets fired, the White Sox are not going to trade anyone of note, let alone starting pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, Chisoxmb35 said: Unless Rick Hahn gets fired, the White Sox are not going to trade anyone of note, let alone starting pitching. Who's going to stop them/him, Putin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 a bit too soon to formally surrender but I can see Gio (maybe in a package including TA) to the Dodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 22 hours ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.mlb.com/news/houston-astros-top-30-prospects-list-2023-preseason Assuming Giolito Lynn Clevinger all on the market along with pretty much any member of the bullpen paired with that starter... Catching prospect makes a lot of sense too if they can actually stick at that position. I'm sure Rick will be scouring the bullpens of the potential targets. Of course, he should have his scouts dispatched readying for this. But that's too much work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, GreenSox said: I'm sure Rick will be scouring the bullpens of the potential targets. Of course, he should have his scouts dispatched readying for this. But that's too much work. Jerry is too broke to pay for scouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said: Jerry is too broke to pay for scouts. Forecasting a complete turnaround of the organization? It certainly can't be Hahn bringing in a new team... or God forbid handing over the keys to Getz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchatRisktoZisk Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Forecasting a complete turnaround of the organization? It certainly can't be Hahn bringing in a new team... or God forbid handing over the keys to Getz. That was the 2020 "using Covid to cover up gutting the Ops department" move after the season that never really happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 8 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Forecasting a complete turnaround of the organization? It certainly can't be Hahn bringing in a new team... or God forbid handing over the keys to Getz. Lol no scouts need apply. Looking forward to White Sox night at Seatgeek Stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 On 5/6/2023 at 9:25 AM, FloydBannister1983 said: A better question would be: as bad as this bullpen has been, and as mediocre as Lynn and Giolito have been, what contender would part with their top prospects for pitchers that won’t help them? Not necessary. Sox scouting is easily fooled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Drew Gilbert. There was a ton of smoke connecting him to the Sox during the last draft season. He kinda checks a lot of their boxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohnut Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 On 5/6/2023 at 1:05 PM, caulfield12 said: Sure, we might agree with you had the division lead not reversed from potentially 6 to 8 games after blowing 4 consecutive chances to sweep Minnesota. That and having to beat three teams now instead of just 1-2. In the end, what do the Sox get out of losing Rodon Grandal Lynn Lopez Giolito, Graveman etc., with absolutely nothing back to show for it? Just another 5-7 years of mired in mediocrity. (Competing this year also requires Hendriks to come back at 100% too... and he doesn't look anywhere close yet physically.) If we can get anything for Rodon, we should take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 40 minutes ago, dohnut said: If we can get anything for Rodon, we should take it. Well, we ALREADY lost Rodon, Heuer, Madrigal, etc. AJ Pollock, in a way... thankfully. Except that led directly to Benintendi. So Pollock ended up eating into a lot of future financial flexibilty already (due to his dislike for staying another year with the Sox) while costing himself a good bit of change in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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