caulfield12 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Plus the bullpen seems to have found a groove lately. There's zero reason to have him on the Sox now . As much as he wants to help the team he needs to be a little selfish now and take his time. Better to take the insurance payouts and hold him back as long as necessary. That said, being "just" 5 1/2 games back is going to keep pushing guys like Crochet and Hendriks onto the active roster earlier than could reasonably be expected for them to pitch effectively right off the bat in high leverage. Not unlike Rodon just being thrown into the 2021 playoff pen against OAK without having enough time to adjust. Finally, carrying a closer with that contract makes zero sense for a payroll limited rebuilding team. Edited May 24, 2023 by caulfield12 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: Better to take the insurance payouts and hold him back as long as necessary. That said, being "just" 5 1/2 games back is going to keep pushing guys like Crochet and Hendriks onto the active roster earlier than could reasonably be expected for them to pitch effectively right off the bat in high leverage. Not unlike Rodon just being thrown into the 2021 playoff pen against OAK without having enough time to adjust. The climb out of the hole coincided with a lot of home games against teams comparable to the Sox. Even though I like seeing them playing better it was done without Liam. Basically it's been the pitching and home HRs. If they can't win on the road against KC you aren't capable of an 80 game stretch of games to get you back into the race.The team would have to stay incredibly healthy and actually win some games against the better teams. I'll start thinking there's REAL hope when they show they can consistently win home and road against good and bad teams. Not impossible but not probable either. These gains appear temporary . It almost now or never. Changes will need to start this trade deadline if they aren't at .500 by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Wish him all the best, hope the Sox can get something decent for him when the sell-off starts in July. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 54 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Wish him all the best, hope the Sox can get something decent for him when the sell-off starts in July. With that contract and the odds of him having his previous velocity and command/control are practically the same as the Celtics winning four in a row elimination games, five including the 76ers series...I'm not expecting for him to be dealt until the offseason or possibly next trade deadline. Also, if the Padres continue to play so poorly even after Machado returns, they're going to have to deal Josh Hader at the deadline to restock for 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: Wish him all the best, hope the Sox can get something decent for him when the sell-off starts in July. https://www.mlb.com/news/liam-hendriks-returns-to-white-sox-after-cancer-battle Just imagine the buzz around this if the White Sox were in 1st place or at least hovering around .500. Now it's almost an afterthought...when will he be able to pitch well enough that they can dump his contract on someone else? Imagine how the Hendriks Family feels right now. This White Sox team was not the one that Hahn originally sold them on signing with...but they're kind of stuck with Chicago until he can pitch well enough (not for winning a championship, but just personal stats) to free himself due to the complicated contract that he signed. Edited May 29, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Best Sox news all year honestly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 So who goes off the roster when he returns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, soxrwhite said: So who goes off the roster when he returns? My guess Bummer IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 hour ago, soxrwhite said: So who goes off the roster when he returns? I’m guessing Scholtens, and then Lambert when Clevinger returns Friday. That is if there is no one hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I’m guessing Scholtens, and then Lambert when Clevinger returns Friday. That is if there is no one hurt. I think that sounds right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I'll be curious what attendance is tonight. If I knew last week he'd be back tonight I'd have planned to attend. The fact he wasn't making rehab appearances then they give 24 hour notice seems kind of a miss but maybe pre-sale for today was high. Liam deserves to be honored this eve and I'd have loved to be there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Jimmy Lambert to the IL with ERA inflammation. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Jimmy Lambert to the IL with ERA inflammation. 17 minutes before Twitter, take a bow Dick Allen, but don’t offend Jerry while doing so. Edited May 29, 2023 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Wonder if Lambert goes to get stretched out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 it's hilarious how many fake injuries the Sox pull out of their ass when they need to manipulate the roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, joejoesox said: it's hilarious how many fake injuries the Sox pull out of their ass when they need to manipulate the roster I was just gonna say lol. Yeah an inflamed ankle riiigghhttt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Wonder if Lambert goes to get stretched out. I believe that ship has sailed. It's Schoenle in the Davis Martin role for this year. Next year? God only knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 hour ago, JoshPR said: I was just gonna say lol. Yeah an inflamed ankle riiigghhttt …and then they’ll sit an injured guy for 8 days before actually ILing him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Timmy U said: I believe that ship has sailed. It's Schoenle in the Davis Martin role for this year. Next year? God only knows. Scholtens? Wouldn't count on that happening against the actual competition outside the AL Central. Martin actually performed better than everyone expected...well, will just have to wait and see. Edited May 29, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 hours ago, joejoesox said: it's hilarious how many fake injuries the Sox pull out of their ass when they need to manipulate the roster Every team does it. Rule was changed because of how Tampa manipulated it for pitchers. Sending him down saves team money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I think the Hendricks comeback was inspirational even with the outcome. If Grivol was smart, he'd use it as a motivational tool. Hendricks had cancer and he fought his way back. The Sox nearly pulled it out in the ninth. That's good. What does he have to lose? The Sox are 12 back and they need something positive to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Highland said: I think the Hendricks comeback was inspirational even with the outcome. If Grivol was smart, he'd use it as a motivational tool. Hendricks had cancer and he fought his way back. The Sox nearly pulled it out in the ninth. That's good. What does he have to lose? The Sox are 12 back and they need something positive to think about. 7 back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: 7 back... 7 back, 12 back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 16 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Scholtens? Wouldn't count on that happening against the actual competition outside the AL Central. Martin actually performed better than everyone expected...well, will just have to wait and see. He’s referring to Garrett Schoenle, not Scholtens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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