Kopech turns to rubble. (Fangraphs article)

[Highland]

6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

He was really starting to get there pre-injury in 2018, he had a month or two where his walk rate plummeted.

Then he had the injury, sat out a year...and then they stuck him in the bullpen, so he never had a chance to rebuild his routine and muscle memory and find his control against minor leaguers. 

I remember when he first came up. Hitters were glaring at him because he was throwing high heaters at their heads. He wasn't head-hunting; the control wasn't there and there were stories of him in the minors of him being all over the place.  Finally, the Sox were hyping him as the savior of the franchise before he threw one major league pitch. This has been a joke.

[soxrwhite]

Kopech's best success was in the bullpen. I'm not even sure he can succeed there without his old velocity. A middle reliever maybe. He seems to start out ok for an inning or two.

[chitownsportsfan]

42 minutes ago, Highland said:

I remember when he first came up. Hitters were glaring at him because he was throwing high heaters at their heads. He wasn't head-hunting; the control wasn't there and there were stories of him in the minors of him being all over the place.  Finally, the Sox were hyping him as the savior of the franchise before he threw one major league pitch. This has been a joke.

Pitching prospects fail constantly. It's why you need to acquire as many as you can and make sure you've got the coaching and scouting in place to ID and then develop them as much as possible. Chicago has none of that infrastructure. The Sox also will lose solid pitchers like Giolito constantly because of their asinine contract policy. We're fucked on many fronts here.

[caulfield12]

7 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Pitching prospects fail constantly. It's why you need to acquire as many as you can and make sure you've got the coaching and scouting in place to ID and then develop them as much as possible. Chicago has none of that infrastructure. The Sox also will lose solid pitchers like Giolito constantly because of their asinine contract policy. We're fucked on many fronts here.

Not even sure they could succeed with Cleveland and other teams' recent draft approaches of taking ALL or nearly all pitchers in the draft. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

2 hours ago, KipWellsFan said:

Sorry... why?

Because when all players suck it has to be the manager and coaches fault because  of well just because ! And when players are good it's the player's natural ability.

Sometimes the player won't listen to coaching or the player listens but the changes won't work/takes too long  or a player doesn't feel comfortable after making the changes.

Or the player will just never take the next step because of injuries piling up or the natural progression from thrower to pitcher or AAA star to MLB player takes longer or never happens.

 A coach can suggest try choking up a 1/2inch or try a short/longer/lighter/heavier bat and a player could look at them like they are crazy and say cmon now that's little league advice.

[caulfield12]

5 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Because when all players suck it has to be the manager and coaches fault because  of well just because ! And when players are good it's the player's natural ability.

Sometimes the player won't listen to coaching or the player listens but the changes won't work/takes too long  or a player doesn't feel comfortable after making the changes.

Or the player will just never take the next step because of injuries piling up or the natural progression from thrower to pitcher or AAA star to MLB player takes longer or never happens.

 A coach can suggest try choking up a 1/2inch or try a short/longer/lighter/heavier bat and a player could look at them like they are crazy and say cmon now that's little league advice.

Sounds a lot like Brian Anderson... who better to serve as a surrogate White Sox scout and an 8-38 Northwestern baseball recruiter? 

[hankchifan]

6 hours ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said:

It’s because he cut his hair. It transformed him from golden god to superdork overnight

The Sox Samson

[hankchifan]

6 hours ago, joejoesox said:

yikes 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/kopech-turns-to-rubble/

 

 

The fact that Katz hasn't been fired yet is actually remarkable. 

I’ll still take Kopech over Lynn.