southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 http://www.msnbc.com/news/986885.asp?0cv=CB20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I hope KW scoops him up off of waivers!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach23 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 It would be just our luck that the one time the Sox did spend money, they wasted it on him. He is exactly what they don't need, another slow power hitter. Plus, he would probably be pouting and poisoning the clubhouse because his dream is to play with the Yankees in his hometown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2003 Author Share Posted October 30, 2003 Manny Ramirez=Albert Belle, with a bad work ethic. I want no part of him at $10mil let alone $20 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach23 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Manny Ramirez=Albert Belle, with a bad work ethic. I want no part of him at $10mil let alone $20 mil Amen to that. 20 million could fill a lot of holes. I think Boston is stuck with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 He's a stud, but not a 20 mil stud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 It would be just our luck that the one time the Sox did spend money, they wasted it on him. He is exactly what they don't need, another slow power hitter. Plus, he would probably be pouting and poisoning the clubhouse because his dream is to play with the Yankees in his hometown. Putting him on waivers, may just be a ploy by Boston to see if they can get the Yankees to bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2003 Author Share Posted October 30, 2003 Putting him on waivers, may just be a ploy by Boston to see if they can get the Yankees to bite. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stor..._rob&id=1650072 That is exactly what Neyer believes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 The guy has put up better offensive numbers than anyone we have seen in a long time (Thomas MVP years.) Stats Inc. rated him the second most productive player in all of baseball pitchers included. The guy can flat out hit. His head is not on tight but I wouldn't be aginst getting him if the Red Sox paid a good portion (50%) of his salary (Konerko, Koch for Manny & $5M a year of his salary.) If I was the O's I would try and work a deal with Boston. I would take Albert Belle any day of the week, the guy was a gamer. A jag off yes but we all know where nice guys finish. Manny is just a little off. Belle and Manny went to the series with another man of questionable character, Loften. I think there is a little too much stock put into character and attitude. See where Loften ended up the last two years. Winning cures a-lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2003 Author Share Posted October 30, 2003 The guy has put up better offensive numbers than anyone we have seen in a long time (Thomas MVP years.) Stats Inc. rated him the second most productive player in all of baseball pitchers included. The guy can flat out hit. His head is not on tight but I wouldn't be aginst getting him if the Red Sox paid a good portion (50%) of his salary (Konerko, Koch for Manny & $5M a year of his salary.) If I was the O's I would try and work a deal with Boston. I would take Albert Belle any day of the week, the guy was a gamer. A jag off yes but we all know where nice guys finish. Manny is just a little off. Belle and Manny went to the series with another man of questionable character, Loften. I think there is a little too much stock put into character and attitude. See where Loften ended up the last two years. Winning cures a-lot. The Lofton example is a bad one because he was traded to both teams that he ended up in the post season with. Where did the teams finish that he started the season with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkit Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 But remember...Manny is now on a team owned by John Henry. He's a bottom line stat guy. For those of you that don't know what he does for a living...He manages roughly $7 or $8 billion of client's money and then makes returns for them using system trading which is based on statistical events that can be predicted over time. His crew knows much more about statistics than anyone else even remotely involved in baseball. And he is an astute businessman. He believes in the bottom lne. Period. He isn't doing this to live out his "life long" fantasy. If he can't make money owning the team, you can bet he'll make huge changes. If that doesn't work, he'll sell. Maybe phase one is dumping the dead wood? Remember...Manny had lots to say about how much he loves Little. And John Henry specifically felt Little ignored the glaring statistics regarding pitching in the playoffs. By the way, is this the team you'd want to go to, if you are Colon? Pedro's upset with the fans [says they treat him bad] and Manny may be bye bye? Forkit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I am not sure the Sox or many teams have the kind of money the Manny will demand. I don't see him with the Chisox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I am not sure the Sox or many teams have the kind of money the Manny will demand. I don't see him with the Chisox. 'rockin, it has nothing to do with how much Manny will demand, but how much he is under contract for. If he is claimed, his contract goes with him. You may have meant this, but I wasn't sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 By the way, is this the team you'd want to go to, if you are Colon? Pedro's upset with the fans [says they treat him bad] and Manny may be bye bye? Forkit! I think this is a very astute point. Some people have thought that Colon with Pedro would be a great fit. Trying to dump Manny's salary likely sends a message to Colon's people. Maybe Colon's options ARE limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2003 Author Share Posted October 30, 2003 By the way, is this the team you'd want to go to, if you are Colon? Pedro's upset with the fans [says they treat him bad] and Manny may be bye bye? Forkit! I think this is a very astute point. Some people have thought that Colon with Pedro would be a great fit. Trying to dump Manny's salary likely sends a message to Colon's people. Maybe Colon's options ARE limited. Boston has already dropped big hints that the team as it is now, cannot afford Colon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I see Manny playing for one of 5 teams next year - Red Sox, Yankees, Orioles, Mets, or Dodgers. If I had to narrow that list down....it would be the 3 AL teams, Baltimore, Boston, and New York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I wouldnt care if kenny spent $20 on him but if he wants 20 mil. its like Willie Harris asking for 20 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I wouldnt care if kenny spent $20 on him but if he wants 20 mil. its like Willie Harris asking for 20 mil. Come on now!!! Lets get serious....its nothing like Willie Haris asking for 20 million, because at least Willie can run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I luv to watch Willie run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I see Manny playing for one of 5 teams next year - Red Sox, Yankees, Orioles, Mets, or Dodgers. If I had to narrow that list down....it would be the 3 AL teams, Baltimore, Boston, and New York. Boston, Boston, or Boston. He will not be picked up off of waivers. Only was he is out of town is if he is traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Manny Ramirez is one of, if not the best hitter in baseball. This more than anything shows the declining state of baseball finances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Manny Ramirez is one of, if not the best hitter in baseball. This more than anything shows the declining state of baseball finances. Yeah, but when you combine one of the games best hitters, with one of the games worst work ethics, this happens. Every team would grow tired of Mannys attitude towards the game after a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Yeah, but when you combine one of the games best hitters, with one of the games worst work ethics, this happens. Every team would grow tired of Mannys attitude towards the game after a while. What antics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 BoSox love to play head games with Georgie Porgie. They saw the Yankees' offense grind to a halt in the World Series. They think George will impulse buy Manny -- as he did with Weaver, Boone, Contreras and others. If Manny goes to NY, then Boston takes the savings and spends the money reasonably on players that other teams are dumping in a decliining market. (Perhaps from the Astros, Cardinals, Twins, As, Royals and others) I think it's a shrewd move -- but it won't work unless Georgie Porgie bites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Boston, Boston, or Boston. He will not be picked up off of waivers. Only was he is out of town is if he is traded. How could he be traded? If no one wants him for free (contract withstanding), why would someone give up something for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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