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2 minutes ago, almagest said:

He's swinging at everything. You can't be successful in the majors that way, even as strong as he is.

Yeah probably best to just trade him right now! Totally worthless player! LOL!

Since we have a horrible manager and hitting coach that will never work with him to correct these plate discipline mistakes, which can be corrected...then we might as well trade him.

Then Jake will get the last laugh when he goes to a winning org where they actually have knowledge to coach and make adjustments for their players and make Jake an all-star.

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1 minute ago, The Kids Can Play said:

Yeah probably best to just trade him right now! Totally worthless player! LOL!

Since we have a horrible manager and hitting coach that will never work with him to correct these plate discipline mistakes, which can be corrected...then we might as well trade him.

Then Jake will get the last laugh when he goes to a winning org where they actually have knowledge to coach and make adjustments for their players and make Jake an all-star.

Even as incompetent as the White Sox are I'm sure they're not telling him to swing at almost every pitch. He needs to work this out or he won't be in the majors for long.

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6 minutes ago, almagest said:

It's a sad state of affairs when so many people rush to defend a guy hitting so poorly over the past month because sometimes he's the only offense the team can muster.

It is a sads state of affairs butnot because anyone defends Burger.

He's amomng <LB leaders in HR

s per AB. He belongs in the lineup and when you have a .250ish hitter who mases a lot of HR's but K's often would find AB's for the guy.

That means even more on the Sox whohave been playing very competitive baseball even on the current swing against .500+ teams.

The pitching staff has been a lot better but the offense doesn't get a lot of runs or walks.

He's still got a 135wRC+ and 1.2 fWAR is which is only behind Robert on the team among position players. Criticizing him because of a 2 week bad batting average is not nor has it ever been among the Sox most pressing problems.

Sad state of affairs indeed but when a guy fights back through major injuries and contributes more than all the guys that were traded for to be the catalysts to an extended run of playoff years and is always smiling and hustling people are going to defend him because he's one of the few bright spots.

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14 minutes ago, hankchifan said:

Burger needs to be given a take sign until a strike is thrown.  He would have walked.  We need to do things differently, not repeating the same mistakes.

He tried that last night in 9th and it did not go well.  Guy has zero pitch recognition ability.  In reality it was a high draft pick with major flaws. 

Injuries are no longer an excuse. 

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8 minutes ago, almagest said:

Yeah, ok. His struggles are Grifol's fault for batting him 7th, not his own for swinging at 90% of the pitches that come his way.

Yeah it is Grifol's fault. Hence why the good HR hitters in baseball bat 4th or 5th.

I guess maybe you haven't seen the lineup cards of the successful winning teams with smart managers. Batting at 4th or 5th allows a hitter to see better pitches. It's called basic 101 baseball lineup logic.

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Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

It is a sads state of affairs butnot because anyone defends Burger.

He's amomng <LB leaders in HR

s per AB. He belongs in the lineup and when you have a .250ish hitter who mases a lot of HR's but K's often would find AB's for the guy.

That means even more on the Sox whohave been playing very competitive baseball even on the current swing against .500+ teams.

The pitching staff has been a lot better but the offense doesn't get a lot of runs or walks.

He's still got a 135wRC+ and 1.2 fWAR is which is only behind Robert on the team among position players. Criticizing him because of a 2 week bad batting average is not nor has it ever been among the Sox most pressing problems.

Sad state of affairs indeed but when a guy fights back through major injuries and contributes more than all the guys that were traded for to be the catalysts to an extended run of playoff years and is always smiling and hustling people are going to defend him because he's one of the few bright spots.

I don't know how much more I can spell this out for you. He's swinging at everything. That won't work long term. It hasn't really been working for a month. Only his power is keeping him in the majors right now.

I like Jake a lot, but I can barely watch his at-bats because of the poor swing decisions he makes. He needs to be much more selective or that WAR is going to take a nosedive.

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3 minutes ago, almagest said:

Even as incompetent as the White Sox are I'm sure they're not telling him to swing at almost every pitch. He needs to work this out or he won't be in the majors for long.

No kidding he needs to work it out. However at good baseball teams the coaches help a slugging hitter with huge upside potential make those adjustments. 

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Just now, The Kids Can Play said:

Yeah it is Grifol's fault. Hence why the good HR hitters in baseball bat 4th or 5th.

I guess maybe you haven't seen the lineup cards of the successful winning teams with smart managers. Batting at 4th or 5th allows a hitter to see better pitches. It's called basic 101 baseball lineup logic.

Nobody is going to throw him a strike if he swings at everything. It doesn't matter where he hits in the lineup. He could hit in front of Ohtani and Trout and they'd still throw him sliders outside and fastballs up and in off the plate.

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Just now, almagest said:

Nobody is going to throw him a strike if he swings at everything. It doesn't matter where he hits in the lineup. He could hit in front of Ohtani and Trout and they'd still throw him sliders outside and fastballs up and in off the plate.

He has no shot at hitting Munoz

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