winninguglyin83 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 story for tomorrow's New York Times already on their web site http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/31/sports/b...all/31YANK.html Sez the Yankees are NOT interested in Manny. More interested in Vlad and Sheffield. Sez they might pursue Molitor as the new hitting coach. At the bottom, it sez they're going to spend their money on pitching, mentioning Bartolo and LaTroy Hawkins. Also heard that Robbie Alomar filed for free agency today, but can't find confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 God, I hate the yankees. How nice would it be to see the yanks fall flat on their ass if they sign a ton of these big name players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I guess since David Wells isn't coming back, they're gonna need another Tub Of Goo. Colon fits right in that role... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 See, I whould think that if the Yanks keep coming up short, there just going to spend more, and more, and more money. With BUD ever say enough is enough? That would be the only good thing that could come from that. Can Bud ever step in and say you can only spend this much? Not under the current rules. They'll have to pay a high luxury tax, but there is no salary cap like the NFL or the NBA has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Can Bud ever step in and say you can only spend this much? That would be a salary cap, the union will never allow that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 See, I whould think that if the Yanks keep coming up short, there just going to spend more, and more, and more money. With BUD ever say enough is enough? That would be the only good thing that could come from that. Can Bud ever step in and say you can only spend this much? Not as long as the players union exists. I don' think they would ever approve a hard salary cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted October 31, 2003 Author Share Posted October 31, 2003 Bartolo to the Yankees has been predictable since last winter. They steered him to the Sox and away from Boston with the El Duque trade and by taking Osuna and his ridiculous contract off KW's hands. They suspected Clemens would retire and that Wells would be done. Now they're ready to slide in and take Bartolo, no matter how many times he says he really enjoyed playing in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 In the NFL, the salary cap has led to the extinction of dynasties, I kind of like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I didn't plan on having Colon back after this season from the time we acquired him by trade. Basically looked at him as a one year rental, which he was. And I thought the Sox were going to be in dire trouble after this past season pitching wise, but that was before Loaiza shocked the world. If we can sign a solid #3 starter and Loaiza has a respectable season next year, I'll feel good about next season. I know a lot of fans are disappointed about losing Colon, but the offer he got was fair. And while he was good down the stretch for the Sox, he's definitely not worth anywhere near $15 mil per season. At best, he's worth $10 mil a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I'm probably alone in this line of thinking, but I don't wanna see a salary cap in Baseball. Look at how many veterans get cut in the NFl because of salary cap reasons. There are other, better ways to control spending in the MLB. The salary cap in football IMO has had catastrophic effects on the guys who served their time in the league, and get rewarded by getting released because of the cold, hard numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I didn't plan on having Colon back after this season from the time we acquired him by trade. Basically looked at him as a one year rental, which he was. And I thought the Sox were going to be in dire trouble after this past season pitching wise, but that was before Loaiza shocked the world. If we can sign a solid #3 starter and Loaiza has a respectable season next year, I'll feel good about next season. I know a lot of fans are disappointed about losing Colon, but the offer he got was fair. And while he was good down the stretch for the Sox, he's definitely not worth anywhere near $15 mil per season. At best, he's worth $10 mil a season. even though alot of us are dissapointed, I have to say, I'm happy about how the sox at least tried to get him, then backed off at the right time. He's definitely not worth as much as he thinks he is. If we can go out and get another decent starter, I'll be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Let the Yanks overpay for him and then watch as his back and arm go out due to him being so out of shape. If that actually happened, I would laugh my ass off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted October 31, 2003 Author Share Posted October 31, 2003 case you didn't see, there is another thread saying that Molitor has signed to coach the Mariners. it's posted on mlb.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I think some day there will be a salary cap, IMO the yankees are going to go on a major winning streak and win about 10 championships in a row, then baseball will start to get less and less and less popular, attendance will drop and no one will watch the games because at the start of the season it will be decided that the yankees are goin to win the world series, then baseball will have to put a salary cap down and it will regain its popularity....if they dont, in about 20 years major league baseball wont exist anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I think some day there will be a salary cap, IMO the yankees are going to go on a major winning streak and win about 10 championships in a row, then baseball will start to get less and less and less popular, attendance will drop and no one will watch the games because at the start of the season it will be decided that the yankees are goin to win the world series, then baseball will have to put a salary cap down and it will regain its popularity....if they dont, in about 20 years major league baseball wont exist anymore. Lol 10 in a row. As long as there are teams like the Marlins that are more hungry, I wouldn't count on it. It is hard enough to win 1 championship(just ask the Sox) let alone 10 in a row. You might want to set the joint down and step back for a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Good Idea... well i was over exageratting but they will dominate the league and it should force a salary cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 One day their will be a soft cap. I believe it will happen the next time around in a few years. With the soft cap you will have a harder luxury tax that will punish teams that want to spend more, while still allowing them and then their will be some sort of minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I wouldn't count on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I'm probably alone in this line of thinking, but I don't wanna see a salary cap in Baseball. Look at how many veterans get cut in the NFl because of salary cap reasons. There are other, better ways to control spending in the MLB. The salary cap in football IMO has had catastrophic effects on the guys who served their time in the league, and get rewarded by getting released because of the cold, hard numbers. There is one difference with baseball, Capn. Contracts in baseball are guaranteed, where there are not in football. You would not see the same effect in baseball that you do in the NFL in the situation you described. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 There is one difference with baseball, Capn. Contracts in baseball are guaranteed, where there are not in football. You would not see the same effect in baseball that you do in the NFL in the situation you described. Guaranteed contracts are partially what screw baseball, but its also why players never hold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Guaranteed contracts are partially what screw baseball, but its also why players never hold out. Yep, how true Jas....Case in Point, Albert Belle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Yep, how true Jas....Case in Point, Albert Belle... What the heck did u just quote of mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Yep, how true Jas....Case in Point, Albert Belle... WHOA!!! What the hell?? I dunno what happened there. Just did my normal quoting procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 A salary cap could only happen after a brutally long, crippling strike, and the owners have never had the balls to endure one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 A salary cap could only happen after a brutally long, crippling strike, and the owners have never had the balls to endure one. That's because they know tghey will kill the goose that laid the golden egg, if they do. I think the players and owners both saw that in the near strike of 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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