Dick Allen Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 God, I hate the yankees. How nice would it be to see the yanks fall flat on their ass if they sign a ton of these big name players. The funny thing is everyone hates the Yankees because they sign all these stars. It also happens to be the same reason they hate JR, because he doesn't act like the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted October 31, 2003 Author Share Posted October 31, 2003 JR is disliked because in 1994 the Sox had an excellent shot to succeed in the post-season but he was widely considered one of the hawks who allowed baseball to be shut down and the Sox unable to take advantage of their surplus talent and lead in the division. He is also disliked because so many of our best homegrown players -- McDowell, Fernandez, Ventura, Alvarez, Hernandez -- have walked or been traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 JR is disliked because in 1994 the Sox had an excellent shot to succeed in the post-season but he was widely considered one of the hawks who allowed baseball to be shut down and the Sox unable to take advantage of their surplus talent and lead in the division. He is also disliked because so many of our best homegrown players -- McDowell, Fernandez, Ventura, Alvarez, Hernandez -- have walked or been traded. In his defense, what did those guys do after they left? I hate to say it but as talent evaluaters, and injury prognosticators, they have been right most of the time, espesially when it comes to pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkit Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 And though people "hate" JR for trying to get a legit salary structure in 1994, think of it this way... What if the owners had actually showed some guts and stayed the line and gotten a salary cap? Wouldn't things be much better now? Instead, we'll be heading back to the same labor impasse and the Yankees spend, spend, spend... They had a good chance of getting something done in 1994, since they had already paid the price of no post season...They should have gone the course and done it right. Forkit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 ESPN BottomLine just said the Mariners got Moliter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 And though people "hate" JR for trying to get a legit salary structure in 1994, think of it this way... What if the owners had actually showed some guts and stayed the line and gotten a salary cap? Wouldn't things be much better now? Instead, we'll be heading back to the same labor impasse and the Yankees spend, spend, spend... They had a good chance of getting something done in 1994, since they had already paid the price of no post season...They should have gone the course and done it right. Forkit! Easier said than done, forkit.... The players union is strong and may not have given up before the game was essentially ruined in your case. The bottom line is, the player's union is way too damned strong and for the good of the game, it needs some new leadership at the top. Leaders who will forget about the past and not feel the need to kill the owners in every labor negotiation becausse of past transgressions. They need guys who will look out of the best interests of the game as well as those of the players. Another example of "easier said than done", however..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkit Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Rex: I didn't say it would have been easy. What I said was that they had a very legit chance in 1994. They paid the price of no playoffs. Staying the course and fixing the system would have been easier then than it is now, since it will take another strike and a mojor disruption before the two sides are at such a place again. That was a wasted opportunity for baseball. And at this point, I think it would benefit both sides. These folks [both sides] couldn't even agree on steroid abuse measures and a world-wide rights draft...which were both no brainers. Forkit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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