Quin Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 However unlikely it is, I'd say there's a non-zero chance a new GM could sign Giolito in the 2024 offseason if Katz is still around. I only think this after reading Vinnie Duber's piece on Gio: https://allchgo.com/2023/07/10/with-first-half-in-the-books-time-to-find-out-if-lucas-giolito-white-sox-wishes-come-true/ As @Y2Jimmy0 has pointed out on the FutureSox pod, new CBA rules make it so that tanking multiple years doesn't make sense anymore. So bringing back Gio (again, if he's open to it) isn't the worst plan. It's not pretty, but I could see this: 1. Gio 2. Cease 3. Kopech 4. Toussaint 5. Martin Schlotens / Banks / Crochet are longmen, especially to build Crochet's arm strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, Quin said: However unlikely it is, I'd say there's a non-zero chance a new GM could sign Giolito in the 2024 offseason if Katz is still around. I only think this after reading Vinnie Duber's piece on Gio: https://allchgo.com/2023/07/10/with-first-half-in-the-books-time-to-find-out-if-lucas-giolito-white-sox-wishes-come-true/ As @Y2Jimmy0 has pointed out on the FutureSox pod, new CBA rules make it so that tanking multiple years doesn't make sense anymore. So bringing back Gio (again, if he's open to it) isn't the worst plan. It's not pretty, but I could see this: 1. Gio 2. Cease 3. Kopech 4. Toussaint 5. Martin Schlotens / Banks / Crochet are longmen, especially to build Crochet's arm strength. Forgot about Martin...but we know very well expecting much from a TJ recovery first year back is pretty unsound policy. And it's not like Martin was ever a can't miss guy in the first place. He outperformed nearly everyone's pretty minimal expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 They'll sign some end of the road guys to one year deals hoping to catch lightening in a bottle like they always do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: They'll sign some end of the road guys to one year deals hoping to catch lightening in a bottle like they always do. This is what I expect. They’ll run it back with most of the team from this year intact. No way Jerry is signing off on another rebuild. Edited July 17, 2023 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: This is what I expect. They’ll run it back with most of the team from this year intact. No way Jerry is signing off on another rebuild. Garfein on his latest podcast said JR is "miserable" and won't go for another rebuild/tear down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Garfein on his latest podcast said JR is "miserable" and won't go for another rebuild/tear down. Yeah I did hear that. He also had to check convinced to rebuild the first time and now that he’s older, no chance they do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: This is what I expect. They’ll run it back with most of the team from this year intact. No way Jerry is signing off on another rebuild. Another reason I could see Giolito pulling a Chapman with a new GM. Aaron Nola also feels like a Sox rebound contract. I'm just praying for rapid ascension of Montgomery and Ramos, in addition to Sosa and Colas clicking. Cause signing cannon fodder won't cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Garfein on his latest podcast said JR is "miserable" and won't go for another rebuild/tear down. Good. No more tank jobs. Punting away a whole season only to draft guys like Nick Madrigal and Andrew Vaughn is not the way to roll. The catch lighting bottle approach and hope everything clicks is the only way forward with this organization as long as JR is owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Garfein on his latest podcast said JR is "miserable" and won't go for another rebuild/tear down. 2013 White Sox Trying 2017 White Sox Tanking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: 2013 White Sox Trying 2017 White Sox Tanking same GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 The key to MLB pitching going forward is the two inning reliever. It is the only thing that will save us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Need to see how the next 2 weeks go before we can even begin to answer this question. I imagine at least 2 of the guys we acquire in the next 10 days will be in the 2024 rotation along with Cease and Kopech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 It's shocking how fast a team short on SPs, turned the page on Reynaldo. Reynaldo is not a high leverage bullpen arm and gets you nothing in a trade. Should already have been stretched out to start, while we await the moves of Lynn and Giolito. The Sox aren't going anywhere this season and most likely next. Lopez would be a nice healthy arm to experiment with, back in the rotation and most likely would sign here for very cheap if given that opportunity again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 Why not? Of course Lopez succeeding (finally) as a starter would just be around for the course. They should have started stretching him out weeks ago...though...when it became obvious it wasn't in the cards for him to close games out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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