caulfield12 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 compared to any MLB "outfielder" "Based on the opportunities Acuña has seen -- here we're talking his position in the grass, the runner's speed and position, etc. -- an average outfielder would have expected runners to advance 38% of the time. Against Acuña, they only do it 32% of the time. (The other end of that: Chicago’s Gavin Sheets, who has seen similar opportunities, in that the expectation is a 36% advance rate, but has actually seen runners go 43% of the time on him.)" https://www.mlb.com/news/most-valuable-outfielder-throwing-arms-of-2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 It's almost as if hes like a 1B or something. 3 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 I haven't been watching games most of the year, so I didn't know he was still playing the OF so much. 45 freaking games in the OF? This org is such a joke. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 A wRC+ of 82 (89 against RHP) and -4.1 runs below average (position adjustment included) with the glove so far. -.2 fWAR. This is the type of player only the Sox keep around. A smart franchise would have flipped him in the offseason for a A ball lotto ticket and figured it out otherwise. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: A wRC+ of 82 (89 against RHP) and -4.1 runs below average (position adjustment included) with the glove so far. -.2 fWAR. This is the type of player only the Sox keep around. A smart franchise would have flipped him in the offseason for a A ball lotto ticket and figured it out otherwise. But who are they going to flip him to? WE'RE the dumb franchise that the smart franchises trade their chaff to. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Well, there goes his chances for a Gold Glove. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFAthewave69420 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Gavin Sheets does not need to be tendered a contract for 2024. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 So he's a no-bat DH then? Wonder who can use one of those... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Of all of the things that could be said about Gavins Sheets, this is probably the least surprising. This is what happens when you play a bad hitting DH in RF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 What's actually ironic is that Eloy Jiménez has had 9 runners advance on him out of 21 chances. This totals...43%. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: What's actually ironic is that Eloy Jiménez has had 9 runners advance on him out of 21 chances. This totals...43%. It’s not ironic, he stinks out there too 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, T R U said: It’s not ironic, he stinks out there too It's like raaaaaaaaaaiiiiin, on your wedding dayyyyyyyyyy, the freeeee advise that you just didn't take.... Edited July 18, 2023 by chitownsportsfan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 14 hours ago, ron883 said: I haven't been watching games most of the year, so I didn't know he was still playing the OF so much. 45 freaking games in the OF? This org is such a joke. They need his bat in the lineup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Trade Eloy and Sheets to the Rays for Josh Lowe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I don’t know if I’m reading too much into this but I feel like this indicates Gavin might not be a good defensive outfielder. Has Rick seen this? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) I’ll give Sheets some credit for doing a decent job lately in right field but Colas should be in right field every game for the rest of the year, he had 2 hits Saturday night with some nice plays in the field but Sunday he’s on the bench with Eloy taking his place who then gets hurt and replaced by Sheets, I don’t get it except that Grifol is probably an idiot. Edited July 18, 2023 by The Mighty Mite 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 52 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: I’ll give Sheets some credit for doing a decent job lately in right field but Colas should be in right field every game for the rest of the year, he had 2 hits Saturday night with some nice plays in the field but Sunday he’s on the bench with Eloy taking his place who then gets hurt and replaced by Sheets, I don’t get it except that Grifol is probably an idiot. Yes, Colas should be in right field for the remainder of the year. In 2024, Eloy and Sheets should not be on this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) Javy Baez basically benches self despite being better than Anderson on offense and clearly defense.... "The 30-year-old, whose defense at shortstop ranks in the 99th percentile for outs above average this season, is hitting .220 with six home runs, 13 walks and 84 strikeouts in 88 games, posting a career-worst .321 slugging percentage. His 57 wRC+ ranks second-to-last — ahead of only Chicago White Sox shortstop Tim Anderson — among 150 qualified position players." "Two years ago, Báez launched 31 home runs with an .494 slugging percentage in 502 at-bats for the Chicago Cubs and New York Mets. Since joining the Tigers, Báez has 23 home runs with a .365 slugging percentage in 901 at-bats." https://www.yahoo.com/sports/first-time-detroit-tigers-javier-101609926.html Edited July 18, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, bmags said: I don’t know if I’m reading too much into this but I feel like this indicates Gavin might not be a good defensive outfielder. Has Rick seen this? Nah, Hahn doesn't need any stats or reports, he just goes by his genius gut level feelings, like he did in the June 2017 draft, when he used a #2 pick #49 overall to select 1B Gavin Sheets. Hahn's genius was simple...he figured the Sox desperately needed a slow DH/1B, even though they already had Jose Abreu on the roster. Btw, Jose in 2017 was only having one of his killer years again with no sign of slowing up by putting up: .304/.354/.552/.906 along with 33 HR, 43 2B 102 RBI. Yep that's our genius Hahn playing checkers when the other GM's are playing chess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Highland said: Yes, Colas should be in right field for the remainder of the year. In 2024, Eloy and Sheets should not be on this team. Eloy at least has shown high end offensive production but sheets is a leury level platoon without avg defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said: Nah, Hahn doesn't need any stats or reports, he just goes by his genius gut level feelings, like he did in the June 2017 draft, when he used a #2 pick #49 overall to select 1B Gavin Sheets. Hahn's genius was simple...he figured the Sox desperately needed a slow DH/1B, even though they already had Jose Abreu on the roster. Btw, Jose in 2017 was only having one of his killer years again with no sign of slowing up by putting up: .304/.354/.552/.906 along with 33 HR, 43 2B 102 RBI. Yep that's our genius Hahn playing checkers when the other GM's are playing chess. 1B/DHs held in 2017: Abreu, Burger, Davidson, Eloy, Mercedes, Sheets. Additional 1B/DHs acquired 2018-2022: Yonder Alonso, Grandal, Parrot, Vaughn. Edited July 18, 2023 by South Side Hit Men 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stinky Stanky Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) On 7/17/2023 at 4:26 PM, caulfield12 said: compared to any MLB "outfielder" "Based on the opportunities Acuña has seen -- here we're talking his position in the grass, the runner's speed and position, etc. -- an average outfielder would have expected runners to advance 38% of the time. Against Acuña, they only do it 32% of the time. (The other end of that: Chicago’s Gavin Sheets, who has seen similar opportunities, in that the expectation is a 36% advance rate, but has actually seen runners go 43% of the time on him.)" https://www.mlb.com/news/most-valuable-outfielder-throwing-arms-of-2023 43% vs. 36%. That settles it. Case closed. Edited July 19, 2023 by Stinky Stanky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 7/18/2023 at 9:19 AM, The Kids Can Play said: Nah, Hahn doesn't need any stats or reports, he just goes by his genius gut level feelings, like he did in the June 2017 draft, when he used a #2 pick #49 overall to select 1B Gavin Sheets. Hahn's genius was simple...he figured the Sox desperately needed a slow DH/1B, even though they already had Jose Abreu on the roster. Btw, Jose in 2017 was only having one of his killer years again with no sign of slowing up by putting up: .304/.354/.552/.906 along with 33 HR, 43 2B 102 RBI. Yep that's our genius Hahn playing checkers when the other GM's are playing chess. Gavin was a somewhat questionable pick but six years later we can see that all questions have been resolved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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