whitesoxfan99 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Lol at Beckham giving Kopech credit for working out of the jam last inning. Pure luck that the Pham ball didn’t find a hole because that was hammered and he made a bad pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I would love to know pitchers and staffs that lead the league in “one out, two outs, walk the third guy”. The Sox do that a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Listening to Pauly on with Len and DJ and pretty pretty sure that if the same clown car cast of characters is in the front office, he is gonna be the next Manager of this team Him or Thome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Him or Thome I could tolerate Konerko, Thome seems like Ventura 2.0 I have no rationale for feeling this way. Edited July 20, 2023 by Harry Chappas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 No clue why some parks have three decks in the OF. If that is retro I will pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 His slider is easily his lowest rated pitch this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, HOFHurt35 said: Why Perez can't be taking ABs over stiffs like Grandal and Zavala is so White Sox. They're not going anywhere, Grandal is as good as burned toast at this point, just like Elvis Andrus. Yaz been hitting a bit lately. Hopefully enough for someone to grab him, because I agree - may as well just see what we have with Perez 3-4 days a week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Remillard with a very White Sox AB. Colas drove in a run but should have been ball four. Edited July 20, 2023 by Harry Chappas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Wow an actual sac fly and not a dribbler or a strikeout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I like Sox runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Build that trade value, assorted White Sox players! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I think TA is finding his groove. I have been very critical of him but if we can get the TA that he is capable off then I dont want him traded 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Yaz been hitting a bit lately. Hopefully enough for someone to grab him, because I agree - may as well just see what we have with Perez 3-4 days a week. I have the feeling if they don't trade him, the will DFA him soon after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: Kopech needs to step it up today and give us 6 solid innings. Looking like it might be mission accomplished. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Kopech is having a good game but he's clearly not the same guy he was as a prospect. You can say that about way too many of the guys that were supposed to be core pieces. Also this is gonna be unpopular but Cease=a healthy Rich Harden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I have the feeling if they don't trade him, the will DFA him soon after. Someone with rake him and if the Sox eat salary they should get a 9-15 ranked prospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: Kopech 91 Pitches, 5 2/3 IP, 6 Ks, 4 Hits, 2 ER, 2 BB, Win Pretty close! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Also Grandal was worth it until he got injured. But that is to be expected as a 33 year old C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: Kopech 91 Pitches, 5 2/3 IP, 6 Ks, 4 Hits, 2 ER, 2 BB, Win Actual: 89 Pitches, 5 2/3 IP, 5 Ks, 2 Hits, 1 ER, 4 BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, baseballgalaly said: Also Grandal was worth it until he got injured. But that is to be expected as a 33 year old C. Grandal was definitely not worth it. We paid this guy $73 million dollars for 3 WAR over 4 years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, T R U said: Grandal was definitely not worth it. We paid this guy $73 million dollars for 3 WAR over 4 years. He was worth it in 2020 and 21. Not in 2022 and 23. That's the point I was making. Grandal was worth 1.6 fwar in 60 games in 2020 and 3.6 in 2021. He keeps up that production and nobody is complaining. This is my point. Edited July 20, 2023 by baseballgalaly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, 2Deep said: I think TA is finding his groove. I have been very critical of him but if we can get the TA that he is capable off then I dont want him traded TA has to get picked off bases more than any player in MLB. Is there a stat on that. Whoever is in 2nd place, it can’t be close. I’m not talking caught stealing, but picked off 1st and 2nd base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, baseballgalaly said: He was worth it in 2020 and 21. Not in 2022 and 23. That's the point I was making. Grandal was worth 1.6 fwar in 60 games in 2020 and 3.6 in 2021. He keeps up that production and nobody is complaining. This is my point. And if you pro-rate that 2020 salary to the $6.75M he actually got paid, he was paid $25M to produce 5.2fWAR over the first 2 years of his deal, which worth about $45-50M. So he was a honestly a bargain the first two seasons, but the last two have been rough. But that's just free agency. Tough to b**** about the Sox not spending money, and then b**** when they do and you still have to pay guys after their prime. Its just how it works. (not directed at you, btw) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: And if you pro-rate that 2020 salary to the $6.75M he actually got paid, he was paid $25M to produce 5.2fWAR over the first 2 years of his deal, which worth about $45-50M. So he was a honestly a bargain the first two seasons, but the last two have been rough. But that's just free agency. Tough to b**** about the Sox not spending money, and then b**** when they do and you still have to pay guys after their prime. Its just how it works. (not directed at you, btw) I get that for when you sign people to 7,8,9,10 year deals and you expect the back half of the deal to be rough. At the time, you sign a 31 year old to the largest deal in franchise history and hes negative value after 2 years. That's a little more than just how free agency works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: And if you pro-rate that 2020 salary to the $6.75M he actually got paid, he was paid $25M to produce 5.2fWAR over the first 2 years of his deal, which worth about $45-50M. So he was a honestly a bargain the first two seasons, but the last two have been rough. But that's just free agency. Tough to b**** about the Sox not spending money, and then b**** when they do and you still have to pay guys after their prime. Its just how it works. (not directed at you, btw) I remember a common take when he was signed was "this will be worth it for the start of the contract, but then it will be rough and we can move him to DH." The problem was Eloy started getting injured by just existing, which forced rapidly Vaughn onto the roster as a OF, and everyone else that's younger than Grandal went to s%*#. Also Collins was able to do approximately nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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