ChiSox59 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: He's been passable at 3B. He probably has no future as a second baseman. Just put Moncada at 2B where he has played a lot before and leave Burger at 3B where his defense has improved. Downgrading defense at two positions has never made much sense to me, but I am more open than I ever have been to moving Yoan around. Mainly just because there is really nowhere else to play Burger with Eloy and AV on this roster, and they should all play when they're healthy enough to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, JoshPR said: Burger at 2nd? Grifol off his Fucking Rocker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I will add that the funniest outcome is Vaughn and Burger defeating the Cubs with defense. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Quin said: I will add that the funniest outcome is Vaughn and Burger defeating the Cubs with defense. Would say the best defensive alignment today is C Zavala 1B Grandal 2B Remillard SS Anderson 3B Moncada LF Benintrndi CF Robert RF Colas Not sure if Eloy will ever be healthy enough to play OF or 1B regularly. Hahn should have placed Vaughn on the IL last week and played Eloy DH and Burger 1B through the deadline, move one or both at the deadline. Move Tim and Yoan next deadline or this off-season with both playing for FA contracts for max value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Typical Sox betting embarrassment at home being the underdogs to the visiting Cubs. Sox are (+100) on the moneyline and Cubs (-117). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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South Side Hit Men Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Cubs have four starters 2.0 + bWAR. First I’ve heard of Tauchman (1.4). IL’d Madrigal (1.0) higher than all Sox beyond Robert (Benintendi 1.0 is second). Hahn is worse than Ryan Pace and Gar Forman, the nut low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Does not compute. June .146 BA .200 OBP .593 OPS July .197 BA .279 OBP .738 OPS Remillard .305 BA .367 OBP .769 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Cubs have four starters 2.0 + bWAR. First I’ve heard of Tauchman (1.4). IL’d Madrigal (1.0) higher than all Sox beyond Robert (Benintendi 1.0 is second). Hahn is worse than Ryan Pace and Gar Forman, the nut low. Hahn is worse than Ryan Pace and Gar Forman, the nut low. As horesh*t as Ryan Pace and Gar Forman were, Rick Hahn is way worse than either of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 minute ago, South Side Hit Men said: Would say the best defensive alignment today is C Zavala 1B Grandal 2B Remillard SS Anderson 3B Moncada LF Benintrndi CF Robert RF Colas Not sure if Eloy will ever be healthy enough to play OF or 1B regularly. Hahn should have placed Vaughn on the IL last week and played Eloy DH and Burger 1B through the deadline, move one or both at the deadline. Move Tim and Yoan next deadline or this off-season with both playing for FA contracts for max value. Man all I want is for Vaughn and Burger to turn a triple play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Quin said: Man all I want is for Vaughn and Burger to turn a triple play. All I want is Kopech to get three outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry McNertney Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 The current Cubs team is somewhat better than the White Sox, with that in mind, the Cubs should sweep. But, baseball is goofy series to series, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox get a split. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 So disgraceful. You move Moncada to second and keep Burger at third. But they can't do that ostensibly because Moncada would be furious. I would think Burger will be a disaster turning the DP. His range will be very poor at 2B IMO. This is insanity. If you are afraid of making moncada mad, keep him at third and play Elvis (LOL) at 2nd. The lost defense will cost the Sox cause Burger hits HRs once in a while but that's about it, once in a while. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 This is same team that put Vaughn in left, then right field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Why is he playing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Why is he playing? Someone has to save face.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Why is he playing? Have to justify that salary some how. Seriously I won't be surprised at all when Hahn announces in October that he needs back surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jerry McNertney said: The current Cubs team is somewhat better than the White Sox, with that in mind, the Cubs should sweep. But, baseball is goofy series to series, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox get a split. Fangraph's fWAR Starting Pitchers Cubs: Hendricks 0.9 & Stroman 2.5 over Kopech -0.2 and Lynn 0.6 Bullpen White Sox: White Sox rank 8th overall across The MLB over the Chicago Cubs 28th Tie: Grandal and Gomes both have a 0.6 fWAR. First Base: Bellinger 2.8 over Vaughn 0.0. Second Base: Horner 2.4 over Burger 1.0 Third Base: Moncada 0.2 over Mastrobuoni 0.0 Shortstop: Swanson 3.0 over Anderson -0.5 Leftfield: Happ 1.9 over Benintendi 1.0 Centerfield: Robert 4.0 over Tauchman 1.0 Rightfield: Suzuki 1.0 over Colas -0.6 Designated Hitter: Morel 1.0 over Jimenez 0.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I would send him home to his mom. One more year then he can retire for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Have to justify that salary some how. Seriously I won't be surprised at all when Hahn announces in October that he needs back surgery. I really hope he went to an outside doctor because the Sox staff is incompetent at best. So many players tried to muddle through players the past few years (Grandal, Robert) which any other competent and forward thinking organization would have shut the same players down and provided the correct course of treatment from the start. Edited July 25, 2023 by South Side Hit Men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I hate this team and they have brought me emotional distress BUT I want to win these 2 games v Cubs. Then they can lose the rest of the year .... .even split the 2 games in Wrigley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Rocky Wirtz gone, Jerry Reinsdorf remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, fathom said: Why is he playing? Holy s%*# could they be any dumber about injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 It’s a battle between the team with players who want off the team against the team trying not to get traded at the deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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