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On 11/20/2023 at 11:23 PM, bmags said:

You know, I get the people defending it. But whatever, I do think that is a huge red flag.

Not to mention the way he left Oklahoma...bringing along teammates and recruits/commits and acting like he was already too big for Flyover Territory, it all left a terrible taste in the mouths of many Sooners fans.

He's already worked his way across the entire country from MD/East to So Cal/West.

At USC, they turn on you in a heartbeat, first the LA Times then the boosters alumni fanbase...OU and even Texas fans are much more loyal and forgiving.

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On 11/17/2023 at 1:36 PM, CentralChamps21 said:

It's not all on Parker. Their WR are not good vs man coverage and Hartman has been less than advertised. Also the RB have been awful on blitz pickup. I think you have trouble getting a quality guy to come if you're pulling the trigger on the current guy after one season.

Maybe they do but it’s ND, they should be able to get whoever Freeman wants. Maybe since Swarbrick is gone, the new AD will be more willing to spend on coaches.

I agree on Hartman and the WRs. The main WRs are mostly freshman, so I expect them to be better going forward. 

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Both TEs in tOSU MI game going to have solid pro careers.

Interesting that Henderson is already on the bench...but power back much more effective there.  Harrison has been a non factor except one highlight reel catch over the shoulder on a quick adjustment.

 

This game and Oregon//Wash working as de facto 1st round playoff games.

That leaves Texas and Bama on the outside looking in...along with FSU minus Travis.

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Both TEs in tOSU MI game going to have solid pro careers.

Interesting that Henderson is already on the bench...but power back much more effective there.  Harrison has been a non factor except one highlight reel catch over the shoulder on a quick adjustment.

 

This game and Oregon//Wash working as de facto 1st round playoff games.

That leaves Texas and Bama on the outside looking in...along with FSU minus Travis.

No way FSU gets left out if they end up 13-0 by beating Florida and Louisville, even without their QB.

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Would be cool if they held a tournament of Conference Champions, especially since this is the last year before the realignment debacle. Assuming all favorites / higher seeds won their Conference Championship Games.

December 9 - Play In Games

  • Game One: #9 Mid-American (Toledo 11-1) at #8 Sun Belt (Troy 10-2)
  • Game Two: #10 Mountain West (Nevada Las Vegas 9-3) at #7 Conference USA (Liberty 12-0)

December 16 - Quarterfinals

  • Game Three: Game One Winner at #1 Southeastern (Georgia 12-0)
  • Game Four: #5 Big XII (Texas 11-1) at #4 Atlantic Coast (Florida State 12-0)
  • Game Five: Game Two Winner at #2 Big Ten (Michigan 12-0)
  • Game Six: #6 American Athletic (Tulane 11-1) at #3 Pacific 12 (Washington 12-0)

January 1 - Semifinals

  • Bowl Game: Game Three Winner (#1 Georgia 12-0) vs. Game Four Winner (#4 Florida State 12-0)
  • Bowl Game: Game Five Winner (#2 Michigan 12-0) vs. Game Six Winner (#3 Washington 12-0)

January 8 - National Championship

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Adjusted to correct rankings using a combination of the latest CFP Poll (#1-#7) and Sagarin (#8-#10)
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Pretty sure the Michigan/Iowa point spread is going to be in the 20+ range.

When's the last time a P5 league championship game had odds that extreme?

 

Could be the last Iowa team in my lifetime to make it (Kirk Ferentz will have less and less incentive, except financially, to stick it out with his son now cast aside, perhaps coaching the same school 30 years in a row???)...with USC, UCLA (goodbye Chip Kelly), Oregon and Washington coming on board.

Somehow Cal and Stanford to the ACC seems even stranger.

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On 11/26/2023 at 5:06 AM, South Side Hit Men said:

Would be cool if they held a tournament of Conference Champions, especially since this is the last year before the realignment debacle. Assuming all favorites / higher seeds won their Conference Championship Games.

December 9 - Play In Games

  • Game One: #9 Mid-American (Toledo 11-1) at #8 Sun Belt (Troy 10-2)
  • Game Two: #10 Mountain West (Nevada Las Vegas 9-3) at #7 Conference USA (Liberty 12-0)

December 16 - Quarterfinals

  • Game Three: Game One Winner at #1 Southeastern (Georgia 12-0)
  • Game Four: #5 Big XII (Texas 11-1) at #4 Atlantic Coast (Florida State 12-0)
  • Game Five: Game Two Winner at #2 Big Ten (Michigan 12-0)
  • Game Six: #6 American Athletic (Tulane 11-1) at #3 Pacific 12 (Washington 12-0)

January 1 - Semifinals

  • Bowl Game: Game Three Winner (#1 Georgia 12-0) vs. Game Four Winner (#4 Florida State 12-0)
  • Bowl Game: Game Five Winner (#2 Michigan 12-0) vs. Game Six Winner (#3 Washington 12-0)

January 8 - National Championship

They need to go back to traditional bowl alignments and quit these playoffs. It's ruined the game. Just vote for a national champion. :lolhitting

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33 minutes ago, Texsox said:

They need to go back to traditional bowl alignments and quit these playoffs. It's ruined the game. Just vote for a national champion. :lolhitting

Like Colorado Michigan?  Or was that GaTech shared year?

Georgia loses to Bama and likely no SeC team with FSU or Texas taking that spot.

SEC really weak non conference results…PAC 12 was true gauntlet this year.

Hope at least Wash or Oregon makes it…Washington loss, which feels likely based on recent trends, gums up the works as well.

 

Btw, would have expected A&M to get a better coach with their unlimited resources…

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1 hour ago, Texsox said:

They need to go back to traditional bowl alignments and quit these playoffs. It's ruined the game. Just vote for a national champion. :lolhitting

Too late now, but what I thought they should have done is kept the traditional bowl alignments, and then had a 4 team playoff after the bowls.

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5 hours ago, Texsox said:

They need to go back to traditional bowl alignments and quit these playoffs. It's ruined the game. Just vote for a national champion. :lolhitting

A neutral rating system rating the top 8 conference champions (Sagarin or another like the MWC is using) would work as well. The current system exists to maximize revenue for Power Conferences (lock in nearly all 12 playoff spots).

In a sport like college football, a team shouldn't have to defeat the same team twice (regular season or conference champion + "wild card" playoff spot), which already happened when Alabama beat Louisiana State in 2011 after losing to them in the regular season. It's a possibility this year with the losing SEC Championship team making the playoffs.

BCS / CFP Era National Championships by Conference

  • (15) Southeastern
    • 2022 Georgia
    • 2021 Georgia
    • 2020 Alabama
    • 2019 Louisiana State
    • 2017 Alabama
    • 2015 Alabama
    • 2012 Alabama
    • 2011 Alabama
    • 2010 Auburn
    • 2009 Alabama
    • 2008 Florida
    • 2007 Louisiana State
    • 2006 Florida
    • 2003 Louisiana State
    • 1998 Tennessee
  • (4) Atlantic Coast
    • 2018 Clemson
    • 2016 Clemson
    • 2013 Florida State
    • 1999 Florida State
  • (2) Big Ten
    • 2014 The Ohio State University
    • 2002 The Ohio State University
  • (2) Big XII
    • 2005 Texas
    • 2000 Oklahoma
  • (1) Big East
    • 2001 University of Miami
  • (0) Pacific Ten (2004)

 

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5 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

Bowl system sucked ass.  Playoffs are so much better 

I agree. I'd love to see college football have a 32 team playoff, almost like basketball. Cut the regular season short.

But I also want to see baseball cut back to a 150ish game season and add two rounds of playoffs. But there are traditionalists who want the regular season to "mean something". 

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6 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said:

Too late now, but what I thought they should have done is kept the traditional bowl alignments, and then had a 4 team playoff after the bowls.

Cut two games off the regular season and make it a 8 game playoff. Personally I'd love December Madness with a 32 team playoff. Couple you image the betting possibilities?

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39 minutes ago, Texsox said:

They would have a playoff game or two to offset it. 

12-16 seems the maximum feasible for NCAA...and they'd have to give 4 byes...so you would have quarterfinals, quarterfinals winners vs. 4 bye teams, semi-finals and finals, requiring a full four weekends of play on top of a 10-11 game schedule.

Still don't see them going back down below 11 games per season after pushing for years to get it up to 12.

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On 11/28/2023 at 6:16 PM, Texsox said:

They would have a playoff game or two to offset it. 

Just have a seven game season,

Game 1 vs. 1AA, Division 2-3, Juco, High School, Pop Warner Game

Games 2-7 Three home and away rivalry games vs. one rival team.

Playoffs - 128 Team Double Elimination Tournament, all 133 Division 1A teams make it. Have a play in bracket for teams seeded 124-133 to get down to 128 teams.

It will be bigger than Texas.

Or CFB could restore being the last North American Team Sport where the regular season actually matters.

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What a mess now with the Texas vs. Alabama debate...

Florida State losing would make things much easier...unless you're a Crimson Tide or Longhorns fan.

 

UGA was just not the same without Bowers and McConkey at 100%.  Milroe has really come a long way this season as a passer rather than run-first option.

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/greg-sankey-says-leaving-sec-out-of-college-football-playoff-is-not-the-real-world-of-college-football/

This.

The other nine conferences are horseshit compared to the SEC. Have been since the start of the Bowl Coalition Era 31 years ago.

Alabama should play the winner of the AFC vs. NFC game for the World Championship, and Georgia should face the winner of the four team CFB playoff for the NCAA Division 1A Championship.

Most Bowl Game Wins in CFB History

  1. 45 Alabama
  2. 37 Georgia
  3. 34 Southern California

Most National Championships in CFB History

  1. 18 Yale
  2. 16 Alabama
  3. 15 Princeton

Most National Championships Bowl Coalition / Alliance / Championship Series / College Football Playoff Era

  1. 7 Alabama (1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020)
  2. 3 Florida (1996. 2006, 2008)
  3. Florida State (1993, 1999, 2013)
  4. 3 Nebraska (1994, 1995, 1997)
  5. 3 Louisiana State (2003, 2007, 2019)
  6. 2 Clemson (2016, 2018)
  7. 2 Georgia (2021, 2022)
  8. 2 Ohio State (2002, 2014)
  9. 1 Auburn (2010)
  10. 1 Miami, Florida (2001)
  11. 1 Oklahoma (2000)
  12. 1 Tennessee (1998)
  13. 1 Texas (2005)

 

 

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