Guest Ncorgbl Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 When are you gonna come down Where will your contract land I should have stayed on the farm I should have listened to the old man You know you can't bait me forever I couldn't sign up with you I'm not a checkbook for your friends to open This boy's too young to be singing the blues So goodbye Bartolo Colon Where the dogs of big league baseball howl You won't let me in your penthouse I'm going back to my plough Back to the howling old room in the woods Hunting the next major league lode Oh I've finally decided my future lies Beyond the Charlotte road What do you think you'll eat then I bet you'll stay a tub o' goo It'll take you a couple of dozen burritos To never see your feet again Maybe you'll get a new G.M. There's plenty like me to be found Mongrels who ain't got a penny Sniffing for tidbits like you on the ground So goodbye Bartolo Colon Where the dogs of big league baseball howl You won't let me in your penthouse I'm going back to my plough Back to the howling old room in the woods Hunting the next major league lode Oh I've finally decided my future lies Beyond the Charlotte road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Someone moved and locked my post. I do not appreciate that sort of censorship, it simply is a lazy way to solve a problem. Rather than read the thing through and censor the ones who attack the author of any post, just censor the whole thing and hope it goes away. Horses***. I have every right to post about which player or member of the White Sox I have issue with. If Colon fans don't like that I bash the 'tub o' goo' I would point out that there are some, including me, who do not appreciate the Jerry Manuel bashing, including the heading on this very page. IT IS THE SAME THING. If a couple of smart assed kids and two illiterates can cause a post to be locked what's next? Will there be a list of 'approved' Sox that can be picked on and a list of 'untouchables'? To whoever, in their infinite lack of wisdom, decided to censor the original post and subsequent replies, think about this. Rather than taking the easy way out, why not try to educate the inane and the immature who think that their opinions are the only ones that matter. Teach your ignorant that if they attack they will get retribution. Help your flock grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Good Morning Corg, I see you were a bad boy while the Doctor was away and the mature people had to put away your toys. Try and be calm, it will be ok. That's what the anger management therapist has been working with you on. Some kids just don't understand an on line persona. You can make yourself anything you'd like to be. Retired, military with a woman. Sure whatever floats your boat. I still picture you as younger and probably female who doesn't like men from all your anal references. I'm still amazed that you can make anyone upset. If this isn't an act I feel very sorry for you. I can't believe you have someone to talk to other than on line. You seem a very lonely and sad individual with a lot of anger issues. You suggest to me several times that I do an impossible sexual act and call others immature. I tried to be satirical, perhaps a but witty, but never personal, I believe even you can tell the difference. I joked about the persona you've so carefully tried to create. As far as you talking to Eddie, Jerry, Frank and others I have no doubt you are hearing voices in your head. Maybe you should get them checked out. Seriously, have you checked out any of the emails offering discount psychological drugs? Perhaps the self medication route you're trying isn't working. Since I solved that constipation problem for you; perhaps this will also help But then again you may already have it bookmarked http://www.psychiatry24x7.com I found this on their site Up to 75% of schizophrenia patients don't take their medication regularly or stop treatment altogether. This often leads to return of symptoms, which can result in extreme distress, irrational behaviour and rehospitalisation. New long-acting medication can help maintain treatment and lead to more consistent therapy. God Bless you corg, I hope you get the help you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 "I tried to be satirical, perhaps a but witty, but never personal, I believe even you can tell the difference." ROTFLMAO! Obviously you haven't a clue what the difference is between 'personal' and witty, but that's hardly a surprise from what I've read of your 'thoughts'. That's ALL you've posted, personal slams! Is everything in your own, 'special' world as revisionist as your assesments here show? I'd suggest a number of things for you, however, given your circle of buddies, your scope of self help web sites and your obvious need to fail at slamming people, I'd say you were beyond help. But I'm no doctor. Perhaps you're not the poster child for the Texas Chapter of the 'Clinically Obsessed Jealous Ne'er Do Wells' I think you are. Enjoy me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Why not a discussion of the issues brought up without all the name calling? There is just a lot of pent up anger out there today. It's scary. Someone cuts you off on the freeway you've got to think twice about leaning on your horn and giving the one who cut you off the finger. They may be packing and you may be in trouble. I never met corg, but do some looking into it. He is who he says he is. I mean lots of people on lots of boards know the guy, so everybody can't be dreaming. He has strong opinions and if you go after him he returns the favor. Many have had a dialogue, even a disagreeing one without all this bad blood. In any case it was good seeing the infamous giff again. Why don't you all get mad at me instead? Been rooting for the Sox a long time. I think Williams is poison. I think JR's payroll stance is unrealistic. You don't have to be a Steinbrenner, but 55-60 mil ain't gonna cut it. For a century the pendulum has swung back and forth in Chicago regarding the two baseball teams. Young folks here may not believe it, but Chicago has not always been a Cubs town. Now the pendulum has swung like never before and the Cubs are poised to deliver the knockout blow. Does anybody in power know this or care? I don't care how much dough US Cellular is sinking into their newly named stadium or what the lease says. The countrys demographics have changed and their is no sure thing in any American business these days. The Sox need the best they've ever gotten from their ownership and managment and I for one am not optimistic. So have a go at me and love that cute little carciature of Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Yossarian, Thank you. And thank you again for being an intelligent adult in your post. We do disagree on some things, and that can be argued without the childish bulls***, and that'swhat being a mature is all about. That said; Reinsdorf and Einhorn don't really have a 'payroll stance' as I believe you, and many people, believe they do. It isn't a flat figure, 'this is it' type thing. What it is is 'WORTH' versus 'COST'. They'll pay for a winner, and have demonstrated that many times, but won't overpay for a player or team that shows little promise. It's not so much a guarantee they want, that's unrealistic, but at least a very good shot at the prize. If the G.M. presents his case for the need to spend, they have done it. With Williams they've paid for Wells and Colon, among others, and raises to many that shouldn't have gotten that much all with no hesitation. They even went with the $17 or $18 million a year figure for ARod, which fell short. Compare to the extreme, Steinbrenner. His method is like making pasta. Grab a whole bunch, heat it up and throw it against the wall to see what sticks. The last 3 seasons he's won as many World Series as we have. But he did win a few before that with that method, and we didn't, so some would like to see the Sox do it too. Right now Williams' deals have the Sox between a rock and a hard place. He negotiated a short term deal with Maggs that he never intended on paying the last year of and now, because he failed at getting a long term deal done, has Maggs overpriced, overpaid and probably over with the Sox. The managing candidates we've all heard about are no better than the one we let go, and almost half the roster is either a free agent or eligibe for arbitration. These things are supposed to be spred out so they don't all hit at once, but that's not happening here, and breaking that cycle will take more intelligence than Kenny has. There are two plans, with sub plans, on the table, and all subjet to change as always. Try again with the same basic team, or rebuild, with a few veterans. I think, and have stated that trying again is a waste of money, we've already seen what this team can do, and it wasn't good enough. One or two players won't fix it, either. I think now is the time to dump and rebuild around Buehrle, Loaiza, Garland and the rest of the pitchers, along with Crede, Harris, Olivo and Borchard (It's time he stepped up). In the current Central Division we'd still be a contender, the competition isn't that fierce, and as is always the case, anything can happen in the playoffs. As the cUbs showed 3 good pitchers will be very effective in post season baseball, and we'd have that. I don't think buying more big buck talent would get us any further along, and maybe worse, given the free agents and available players out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 "I tried to be satirical, perhaps a but witty, but never personal, I believe even you can tell the difference." ROTFLMAO! Obviously you haven't a clue what the difference is between 'personal' and witty, but that's hardly a surprise from what I've read of your 'thoughts'. That's ALL you've posted, personal slams! Is everything in your own, 'special' world as revisionist as your assesments here show? I'd suggest a number of things for you, however, given your circle of buddies, your scope of self help web sites and your obvious need to fail at slamming people, I'd say you were beyond help. But I'm no doctor. Perhaps you're not the poster child for the Texas Chapter of the 'Clinically Obsessed Jealous Ne'er Do Wells' I think you are. Enjoy me. LOL Thank you for putting a little thought into it. I was feeling bad that you would spend so much time attacking others and kind of ignoring me. I assumed it was like a rattlesnake conserving his venom. You knoew I wasn;t food so used it on lother attacks. I'll talk to you later corg, this has gotten boring. Have a nice day. this guy cracks me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 [Thank you for putting a little thought into it. I was feeling bad that you would spend so much time attacking others and kind of ignoring me. I assumed it was like a rattlesnake conserving his venom. You knoew I wasn;t food so used it on lother attacks. I'll talk to you later corg, this has gotten boring. Have a nice day. this guy cracks me up. My apologies, you were not being ignored, just not worth the effort. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Not ignoring me? You responded to every post. I'm sorry I feel like a little kid making the baboon mad at the zoo. Look kids the baboon is throwing his feces! BTW corg, I know all your suggestions regarding anal self penetration is your way to sharing a special time, but it's a waste of your time, I'm committed to a male-female relationship. But is it wrong for corg? I don't think so. I don't believe for a minute you really get all mad like you try to appear. You enjoy the exchange and you are very good at it. If you really got that upset you would have stopped coming on mlb and this board a long time ago. Thank you for the entertainment, I've enjoyed it. If you really do get that upset you really do need to find a way to relax. By the way tell Jerry I said hello. Do you get a chance to talk with Bud when he's in Milwaukee? A number of years ago I leased a couple cars from him ( actually his company) and both times my sales rep let us have Bud's seats near the visitors on deck circle. Very nice. Perhaps he'll let you have them sometimes. My favorite memory sitting in those seats, was Ozzie Guillen, after grounding out for the third time, throwing his helmet into the dugout and screaming F*ck this Mother F*cking Game! His english is very good. I'll let you have the last word. Have a Great Weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Yossarian, Thank you. And thank you again for being an intelligent adult in your post. We do disagree on some things, and that can be argued without the childish bulls***, and that'swhat being a mature is all about. That said; Reinsdorf and Einhorn don't really have a 'payroll stance' as I believe you, and many people, believe they do. It isn't a flat figure, 'this is it' type thing. What it is is 'WORTH' versus 'COST'. They'll pay for a winner, and have demonstrated that many times, but won't overpay for a player or team that shows little promise. It's not so much a guarantee they want, that's unrealistic, but at least a very good shot at the prize. If the G.M. presents his case for the need to spend, they have done it. With Williams they've paid for Wells and Colon, among others, and raises to many that shouldn't have gotten that much all with no hesitation. They even went with the $17 or $18 million a year figure for ARod, which fell short. Compare to the extreme, Steinbrenner. His method is like making pasta. Grab a whole bunch, heat it up and throw it against the wall to see what sticks. The last 3 seasons he's won as many World Series as we have. But he did win a few before that with that method, and we didn't, so some would like to see the Sox do it too. Right now Williams' deals have the Sox between a rock and a hard place. He negotiated a short term deal with Maggs that he never intended on paying the last year of and now, because he failed at getting a long term deal done, has Maggs overpriced, overpaid and probably over with the Sox. The managing candidates we've all heard about are no better than the one we let go, and almost half the roster is either a free agent or eligibe for arbitration. These things are supposed to be spred out so they don't all hit at once, but that's not happening here, and breaking that cycle will take more intelligence than Kenny has. There are two plans, with sub plans, on the table, and all subjet to change as always. Try again with the same basic team, or rebuild, with a few veterans. I think, and have stated that trying again is a waste of money, we've already seen what this team can do, and it wasn't good enough. One or two players won't fix it, either. I think now is the time to dump and rebuild around Buehrle, Loaiza, Garland and the rest of the pitchers, along with Crede, Harris, Olivo and Borchard (It's time he stepped up). In the current Central Division we'd still be a contender, the competition isn't that fierce, and as is always the case, anything can happen in the playoffs. As the cUbs showed 3 good pitchers will be very effective in post season baseball, and we'd have that. I don't think buying more big buck talent would get us any further along, and maybe worse, given the free agents and available players out there. Losing Maggs would absolutely deflate me. Despite not being objective as he is a favorite, I still believe his best years are ahead of him. I know he has been a whipping boy but I think Lee is on the verge of something really big. I agree that the current situation is not conducive to big ticket free agents due to the market and the particular players available at the moment. I also agree that the current crop of managers to be leaves a lot to be desired. We do need another starting pitcher. I've been critical of ownership and managment at times but have no problem with letting Colon go. Not worth it at that price. At my age why should I care? When it comes to the Sox I'm still a kid at heart. Their is no team in all of sports that I would rather see win a world championship. I know the owner is a proud self made man. Tell him if the Sox ever became a real baseball power everthing bad in the past would wash away and he'd feel like a conquering Roman General. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Yossarian, Thank you. And thank you again for being an intelligent adult in your post. We do disagree on some things, and that can be argued without the childish bulls***, and that'swhat being a mature is all about. That said; Reinsdorf and Einhorn don't really have a 'payroll stance' as I believe you, and many people, believe they do. It isn't a flat figure, 'this is it' type thing. What it is is 'WORTH' versus 'COST'. They'll pay for a winner, and have demonstrated that many times, but won't overpay for a player or team that shows little promise. It's not so much a guarantee they want, that's unrealistic, but at least a very good shot at the prize. If the G.M. presents his case for the need to spend, they have done it. With Williams they've paid for Wells and Colon, among others, and raises to many that shouldn't have gotten that much all with no hesitation. They even went with the $17 or $18 million a year figure for ARod, which fell short. Compare to the extreme, Steinbrenner. His method is like making pasta. Grab a whole bunch, heat it up and throw it against the wall to see what sticks. The last 3 seasons he's won as many World Series as we have. But he did win a few before that with that method, and we didn't, so some would like to see the Sox do it too. Right now Williams' deals have the Sox between a rock and a hard place. He negotiated a short term deal with Maggs that he never intended on paying the last year of and now, because he failed at getting a long term deal done, has Maggs overpriced, overpaid and probably over with the Sox. The managing candidates we've all heard about are no better than the one we let go, and almost half the roster is either a free agent or eligibe for arbitration. These things are supposed to be spred out so they don't all hit at once, but that's not happening here, and breaking that cycle will take more intelligence than Kenny has. There are two plans, with sub plans, on the table, and all subjet to change as always. Try again with the same basic team, or rebuild, with a few veterans. I think, and have stated that trying again is a waste of money, we've already seen what this team can do, and it wasn't good enough. One or two players won't fix it, either. I think now is the time to dump and rebuild around Buehrle, Loaiza, Garland and the rest of the pitchers, along with Crede, Harris, Olivo and Borchard (It's time he stepped up). In the current Central Division we'd still be a contender, the competition isn't that fierce, and as is always the case, anything can happen in the playoffs. As the cUbs showed 3 good pitchers will be very effective in post season baseball, and we'd have that. I don't think buying more big buck talent would get us any further along, and maybe worse, given the free agents and available players out there. I have a quick question for you, if you know or not. Is JR giving any thought at pursuing Kazuo Matsui. I realize that a bigger market team will probably snatch him up for themselves, but it'd be nice if he gave it a shot. There are lots of plusses with signing him, the biggest would be the revenue from Japan. Anyways, I think it'd be a breath of fresh air, if we traded Konerko, Maggs, for some good hard playing youth, kept Thomas (you see how he flourished in 2000 with youth), and kept Lee (I just like the guy). It'd be interesting, and I know as long as we have some of the same guys we have on this team, we're going nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I love this thread, please post it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I love this thread, please post it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Texsox, "Not ignoring me? You responded to every post." Yes, that's called 'not ignoring' in most adult circles. "I'm sorry I feel like a little kid making the baboon mad at the zoo. Look kids the baboon is throwing his feces!" You are a little kid, we've established that. Keep your hands out of your diaper, and no throwing. "BTW corg, I know all your suggestions regarding anal self penetration is your way to sharing a special time, but it's a waste of your time, I'm committed to a male-female relationship. But is it wrong for corg? I don't think so." Magazines do not count as female relationships, and it doesn't count as sex when You're alone. "I'll let you have the last word." You've said that several times now on two different strings. Pardon me if I don't believe you. Some children can never be trusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Losing Maggs would absolutely deflate me. Despite not being objective as he is a favorite, I still believe his best years are ahead of him. I know he has been a whipping boy but I think Lee is on the verge of something really big. I agree that the current situation is not conducive to big ticket free agents due to the market and the particular players available at the moment. I also agree that the current crop of managers to be leaves a lot to be desired. We do need another starting pitcher. I've been critical of ownership and managment at times but have no problem with letting Colon go. Not worth it at that price. At my age why should I care? When it comes to the Sox I'm still a kid at heart. Their is no team in all of sports that I would rather see win a world championship. I know the owner is a proud self made man. Tell him if the Sox ever became a real baseball power everthing bad in the past would wash away and he'd feel like a conquering Roman General. I don't want to lose Maggs either, and who knows, maybe someone will come up with a plan. But Williams' having allowed Maggs to talk to the Yankees last year, and their need coupled with the $14 million spell good bye to me. JR wants to win a World Series as much as we do, and for Einhorn more. I do think it will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I have a quick question for you, if you know or not. Is JR giving any thought at pursuing Kazuo Matsui. I realize that a bigger market team will probably snatch him up for themselves, but it'd be nice if he gave it a shot. There are lots of plusses with signing him, the biggest would be the revenue from Japan. Anyways, I think it'd be a breath of fresh air, if we traded Konerko, Maggs, for some good hard playing youth, kept Thomas (you see how he flourished in 2000 with youth), and kept Lee (I just like the guy). It'd be interesting, and I know as long as we have some of the same guys we have on this team, we're going nowhere. Thomas is staying, as we all now know. I hope that means Williams is not. I haven't heard Matsui's name thrown around, but right now it's quiet on my end with a lot of people out of town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 This thread is like Freddy Krueger. No matter how many times you kill it, it just keeps coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 "Piss off, Pastime!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pastime Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 "No apologies necessary! You're a jagoff !" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ncorgbl Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 "No apologies necessary! You're a jagoff !" As you are not specific, who are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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