Vote4Pedro Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, wegner said: Make Kopech the closer....I'm sick of seeing him fail as a starter...I want to see him fail at something else. If I’m the Sox I’m giving Santos the ball at the back end and see how it goes. Leave Kopech where he’s at because we know they aren’t going to sign 3 SP this off season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Feel like they should have taken care of that last season Just so we're clear about this, he's apparently been pitching with this torn for pretty much his whole career. When it flared up last year, they were able to deal with the pain through rest. When they rushed him back this year with a limited spring training, apparently they triggered something different. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, BamaDoc said: This was not an emergency surgery so the front office had to be well aware! He’s had the tear in the elbow since he was in Oakland, he let that out of the bag last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said: Still I think Jerry with his cheapness would rather kick that can down the road and only pay him the 1.5 every year until he sells then he can be off the hook for it It's also $1.5 million that isn't adjusted for inflation, so the total real amount of money paid to Hendriks will be less, and it will be an even lower fraction of team revenue which is going up much faster than inflation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, BamaDoc said: This was not an emergency surgery so the front office had to be well aware! You're probably right, but how the hell could they say "we will contend in 2024" with a straight face? They're a joke 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, soxfan49 said: You're probably right, but how the hell could they say "we will contend in 2024" with a straight face? They're a joke Because their fall back has always been the AL Central sucks so we are in it until we are not. Personally I want a GM who doesn’t give a damn about what the rest of the division does and puts together a roster that will compete with anyone let alone the AL Central 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, wegner said: Make Kopech the closer....I'm sick of seeing him fail as a starter...I want to see him fail at something else. lol it won't make a bit of difference where Kopech is slotted in, team is gonna lose 100 games next year 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 For those of you needing a refresher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Of course. It's par for the course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Just so we're clear about this, he's apparently been pitching with this torn for pretty much his whole career. When it flared up last year, they were able to deal with the pain through rest. When they rushed him back this year with a limited spring training, apparently they triggered something different. My thoughts as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Just to point this out one more time, only 1 team in baseball does not recognize that 12 to 14 months is a very aggressive return schedule from TJS. The good news is that 14 months from now should be the end of the 2024 season, so the odds of them trying to rush him back are low. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 He was doing great until Fucking Engel dropped the pop up in foul territory with 2 outs in the 9th. Game should have been ova. Next pitch, home run. Tony should have walked out there and taken Engel off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Just to point this out one more time, only 1 team in baseball does not recognize that 12 to 14 months is a very aggressive return schedule from TJS. The good news is that 14 months from now should be the end of the 2024 season, so the odds of them trying to rush him back are low. Good thing for Liam is they know they won’t be competing in 2024 anyways so there won’t be a realistic thought to pick up his option and push that timeline either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 How about a win tonight...or at least a run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Glad we rushed him back, without any Spring Training build up. Hell of an organization. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 The cost of rushing him back for positive PR. Well done Sox! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Were we really relying on Liam to be our closer next year after all of his health issues this year? BTW- we have a closer in training .....SANTOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 How sad. Just smh. Best to your recovery, Liam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, reiks12 said: The cost of rushing him back for positive PR. Well done Sox! I honestly think they thought it would turn the season around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 I hate this organization as much as anyone right now…but I don’t see anyone is to blame for this. Liam’s elbow has been a ticking time bomb for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: So I’m assuming they are going to decline the 2024 option now? Yep, that's a lock now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 WHY DID THEY RUSH HIM BACK!!!!!!!!!! GOD I FUCKING HATE THIS s%*#. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said: He’s had the tear in the elbow since he was in Oakland, he let that out of the bag last year I understand he has had a small partial tear. I haven't seen his last scan (or others) but if it is now totally torn or significantly progressed from before then it is different. My point was going into the trade deadline , the front office knew he was out for all or virtually all of 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Vote4Pedro said: If I’m the Sox I’m giving Santos the ball at the back end and see how it goes. Leave Kopech where he’s at because we know they aren’t going to sign 3 SP this off season Who let the voice of reason in the room? Haven't you people ever heard of closing the g damn door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Seriously, best of luck to Liam. He laid it on the line every time out there. He has been a joy to cheer for in a Sox uniform. I hope he recovers and praying that he stays all around healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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