Chisoxfn Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I'm going to conclude that Bartolo Colon is as good as gone and that the Sox payroll is going to be between 55 and 60 million. - Sox Trade Magglio Ordonez for Alfonso Soriano - Sox trade Joe Borchard, Matt Ginter, and Aaron Miles for Nick Johnson - Sox trade Paul Konerko to the LA Dodgers for a PTBNL - Sox sign Carl Everett to a 1 yr 5 mill deal - Sox sign Sidney Ponson to a 3 yr 21 mill deal - Sox sign a shortstop (Guzman/Aurilla/Jose) for 2 mill - Sox sign Jon Garland to a 3 yr 6 mill deal - Sox sign Mark Buehrle to a 4 yr 20 mill deal - Sox sign Carlos Lee to a 3 yr 18 mill deal (high estimate) - Sox sign Roberto Alomar or Fernando Vina for about 2.5-3 mill (less would be better..going to assume high) Lineup Roberto Alomar/Fernando Vina - 2nd (S or L) - 3 Mill Alfonso Soriano - CF ® - 2 Mill (I think it would be 1.2 mill) Nick Johnson - 1st - (l) - 500 K Frank Thomas - DH - ® - 6.5 Mill Carlos Lee - LF (You could swap Lee/Thomas) - ® - 6 Mill Carl Everett - RF - (s) - 5 Mill Joe Crede - 3rd - ® - 500 K Rich Aurilla/Christian Guzman/Jose Valentin - SS - (R or S or S) - 2 Mill Miguel Olivo - C - ® - 500K Total Payroll - 26 Million Rotation Buehrle (5 Mill) Loaiza (4 mill) Ponson (7 mill) Garland (2 mill) Scho (2 mill) Total Payroll - 20 Mill - 46 Mill Accumalative Bullpen Koch (6 mill) Marte (1 mill) Wunsch (750 K) Wright (500 K) Total Payroll - 8.25 Mill - 54.25 Mill Accumlative This leaves the Sox with 5.75 Million to bring in 2 veteran relievers. One would definately be someone like Sully/Shiggy/Hawkins and the other a lesser vet like Osuna or Chad Fox. - I have a feeling if the Sox put Koch on waivers that the Mets or Yankees would pick him up and take a chance, since their is no long term deal. But I don't want to assume that in this scenario cause many would consider that questionable. My theory is both teams are looking for closers and the Mets have Koch's former pitching coach while the Yanks are almost always willing to take risks on guys that were once good and still make a lot of money. Koch is just one year off a very impressive season. Plus both teams have definate voids in their pen. - If Koch is gone then the Sox have 11.75 mill to invest if the payroll is 60 mill in 3 relievers. I'd say the Sox would go with something like Hawkins, Sully, Osuna. You sign Hawkins at 4/5 mill per; Sully at a 2 yr 4 mill deal with an option for 2.5 mill and a 500 K buyout and then Osuna a 1 yr 1 mill deal or even 750 K with some incentives. Then the Sox use Munoz as their 7th reliever. Bullpen Marte - 1 mill Hawkins - 5 Mill (Assume high) Sully - 2 mill Osuna - 1 mill Wright - 500 K Wunsch - 500 K Munoz - 300 K WHICKED Total Payroll - 10.3 mill Bench Rowand - 500 Graffy - 750 Harris - 400 Alomar Jr - 750 Robin Ventura - a mill or so One guy on the bench would go to the minors, unless the Sox decide to carry 6 relievers, keeping Munoz in the minors Total payroll is about 61 million but this assumed some high estimates in a few areas. And if the Sox don't want to do that, then sign Shiggy for about 3 mill a year and you save 2 mill on not getting Hawkins or hope you can get Hawkins for a little less. I think realistically this roster could be put together more so for 57 mill or so, which would leave the Sox with some room to add during the trade deadline. I've also assumed giving our young players extensions and this team is in really good shape long term. Mario and I came up with this idea on aim today talking back and forth. I think it would be a hell of a team. Good offense, good pitching, great bullpen and a solid defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I'm going to conclude that Bartolo Colon is as good as gone and that the Sox payroll is going to be between 55 and 60 million. - Sox Trade Magglio Ordonez for Alfonso Soriano - Sox trade Joe Borchard, Matt Ginter, and Aaron Miles for Nick Johnson - Sox trade Paul Konerko to the LA Dodgers for a PTBNL - Sox sign Carl Everett to a 1 yr 5 mill deal - Sox sign Sidney Ponson to a 3 yr 21 mill deal - Sox sign a shortstop (Guzman/Aurilla/Jose) for 2 mill - Sox sign Jon Garland to a 3 yr 6 mill deal - Sox sign Mark Buehrle to a 4 yr 20 mill deal - Sox sign Carlos Lee to a 3 yr 18 mill deal (high estimate) - Sox sign Roberto Alomar or Fernando Vina for about 2.5-3 mill (less would be better..going to assume high) Lineup Roberto Alomar/Fernando Vina - 2nd (S or L) - 3 Mill Alfonso Soriano - CF ® - 2 Mill (I think it would be 1.2 mill) Nick Johnson - 1st - (l) - 500 K Frank Thomas - DH - ® - 6.5 Mill Carlos Lee - LF (You could swap Lee/Thomas) - ® - 6 Mill Carl Everett - RF - (s) - 5 Mill Joe Crede - 3rd - ® - 500 K Rich Aurilla/Christian Guzman/Jose Valentin - SS - (R or S or S) - 2 Mill Miguel Olivo - C - ® - 500K Total Payroll - 26 Million Rotation Buehrle (5 Mill) Loaiza (4 mill) Ponson (7 mill) Garland (2 mill) Scho (2 mill) Total Payroll - 20 Mill - 46 Mill Accumalative Bullpen Koch (6 mill) Marte (1 mill) Wunsch (750 K) Wright (500 K) Total Payroll - 8.25 Mill - 54.25 Mill Accumlative This leaves the Sox with 5.75 Million to bring in 2 veteran relievers. One would definately be someone like Sully/Shiggy/Hawkins and the other a lesser vet like Osuna or Chad Fox. - I have a feeling if the Sox put Koch on waivers that the Mets or Yankees would pick him up and take a chance, since their is no long term deal. But I don't want to assume that in this scenario cause many would consider that questionable. My theory is both teams are looking for closers and the Mets have Koch's former pitching coach while the Yanks are almost always willing to take risks on guys that were once good and still make a lot of money. Koch is just one year off a very impressive season. Plus both teams have definate voids in their pen. - If Koch is gone then the Sox have 11.75 mill to invest if the payroll is 60 mill in 3 relievers. I'd say the Sox would go with something like Hawkins, Sully, Osuna. You sign Hawkins at 4/5 mill per; Sully at a 2 yr 4 mill deal with an option for 2.5 mill and a 500 K buyout and then Osuna a 1 yr 1 mill deal or even 750 K with some incentives. Then the Sox use Munoz as their 7th reliever. Bullpen Marte - 1 mill Hawkins - 5 Mill (Assume high) Sully - 2 mill Osuna - 1 mill Wright - 500 K Wunsch - 500 K Munoz - 300 K WHICKED Total Payroll - 10.3 mill Bench Rowand - 500 Graffy - 750 Harris - 400 Alomar Jr - 750 Robin Ventura - a mill or so One guy on the bench would go to the minors, unless the Sox decide to carry 6 relievers, keeping Munoz in the minors Total payroll is about 61 million but this assumed some high estimates in a few areas. And if the Sox don't want to do that, then sign Shiggy for about 3 mill a year and you save 2 mill on not getting Hawkins or hope you can get Hawkins for a little less. I think realistically this roster could be put together more so for 57 mill or so, which would leave the Sox with some room to add during the trade deadline. I've also assumed giving our young players extensions and this team is in really good shape long term. Mario and I came up with this idea on aim today talking back and forth. I think it would be a hell of a team. Good offense, good pitching, great bullpen and a solid defense. Ouch. But honestly, how many of you think Magglio is good as gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 With the assumption that payroll will be $55-60 million, you are discounting KWs statement from two days ago that payroll will not expand significantly from 2003s $51 mil. Do you think he's blowing smoke, trying to get more guys to resign for less money by cryinng poor? We all assumed that all or at least most of the $12 million not going to Bartolo was still going to be used to fill some holes, but apparently it's back in Reinsdorf's pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 1, 2003 Author Share Posted November 1, 2003 With the assumption that payroll will be $55-60 million, you are discounting KWs statement from two days ago that payroll will not expand significantly from 2003s $51 mil. Do you think he's blowing smoke, trying to get more guys to resign for less money by cryinng poor? We all assumed that all or at least most of the $12 million not going to Bartolo was still going to be used to fill some holes, but apparently it's back in Reinsdorf's pocket. I didn't hear that. I was just assuming what all the papers wrote a few weeks ago. If he keeps payroll at 51 mill it would be a joke because attendance was up and all that stuff and if he was willing to expand payroll a bit the Sox wouldn't have had to given up some of the prospects we did, such as Royce Ring. Heck, if they were gonna give away prospects to save money then they should of at least made kick ass offers to Veal and Moviel as our way of replacing the guys we dealt cause those two were top notch talents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I don't think Everett will sign for half of what he made last year. And I'm surprised so many Sox fans want to trade Maggs for Soriano straight up. Maggs is worth Johnson and Soriano IMHO. But Maggs for Soriano has KW getting taken again written all over it. Not to mention, you want to give up entirely too much for an average OF in Johnson. And you want to pay a number 3 more than your number 1 and 2? Ponson ain't worth 7 million a season. He's Jon Garland, but he throws harder. I usually agree with alot of what you say. I disagree with this big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 We all assumed that all or at least most of the $12 million not going to Bartolo was still going to be used to fill some holes, but apparently it's back in Reinsdorf's pocket. I didn't assume. I knew that money was ear-marked for Colon and Colon only. Using that money to fill a few holes would make entirely too much sense for His Cheapness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 With the assumption that payroll will be $55-60 million, you are discounting KWs statement from two days ago that payroll will not expand significantly from 2003s $51 mil. Do you think he's blowing smoke, trying to get more guys to resign for less money by cryinng poor? We all assumed that all or at least most of the $12 million not going to Bartolo was still going to be used to fill some holes, but apparently it's back in Reinsdorf's pocket. I didn't hear that. I was just assuming what all the papers wrote a few weeks ago. If he keeps payroll at 51 mill it would be a joke because attendance was up and all that stuff and if he was willing to expand payroll a bit the Sox wouldn't have had to given up some of the prospects we did, such as Royce Ring. Heck, if they were gonna give away prospects to save money then they should of at least made kick ass offers to Veal and Moviel as our way of replacing the guys we dealt cause those two were top notch talents. Yeah that number is a joke -- on us. This is excerpted from the story on Frank returning from the mlb site: It's now fitting in Thomas' $6 million to an ever-increasing payroll, with an overall team budget that won't be much higher than the $51 million for 2003. "That's not expected to go up," said Williams, talking Thursday afternoon about the team's overall salary structure. :fyou :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I didn't assume. I knew that money was ear-marked for Colon and Colon only. Using that money to fill a few holes would make entirely too much sense for His Cheapness. When you're right, you're right. Way to thank the fans for coming out and supporting the team last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I'm going to conclude that Bartolo Colon is as good as gone and that the Sox payroll is going to be between 55 and 60 million. - Sox Trade Magglio Ordonez for Alfonso Soriano - Sox trade Joe Borchard, Matt Ginter, and Aaron Miles for Nick Johnson - Sox trade Paul Konerko to the LA Dodgers for a PTBNL - Sox sign Carl Everett to a 1 yr 5 mill deal - Sox sign Sidney Ponson to a 3 yr 21 mill deal - Sox sign a shortstop (Guzman/Aurilla/Jose) for 2 mill - Sox sign Jon Garland to a 3 yr 6 mill deal - Sox sign Mark Buehrle to a 4 yr 20 mill deal - Sox sign Carlos Lee to a 3 yr 18 mill deal (high estimate) - Sox sign Roberto Alomar or Fernando Vina for about 2.5-3 mill (less would be better..going to assume high) Lineup Roberto Alomar/Fernando Vina - 2nd (S or L) - 3 Mill Alfonso Soriano - CF ® - 2 Mill (I think it would be 1.2 mill) Nick Johnson - 1st - (l) - 500 K Frank Thomas - DH - ® - 6.5 Mill Carlos Lee - LF (You could swap Lee/Thomas) - ® - 6 Mill Carl Everett - RF - (s) - 5 Mill Joe Crede - 3rd - ® - 500 K Rich Aurilla/Christian Guzman/Jose Valentin - SS - (R or S or S) - 2 Mill Miguel Olivo - C - ® - 500K Total Payroll - 26 Million Rotation Buehrle (5 Mill) Loaiza (4 mill) Ponson (7 mill) Garland (2 mill) Scho (2 mill) Total Payroll - 20 Mill - 46 Mill Accumalative Bullpen Koch (6 mill) Marte (1 mill) Wunsch (750 K) Wright (500 K) Total Payroll - 8.25 Mill - 54.25 Mill Accumlative This leaves the Sox with 5.75 Million to bring in 2 veteran relievers. One would definately be someone like Sully/Shiggy/Hawkins and the other a lesser vet like Osuna or Chad Fox. - I have a feeling if the Sox put Koch on waivers that the Mets or Yankees would pick him up and take a chance, since their is no long term deal. But I don't want to assume that in this scenario cause many would consider that questionable. My theory is both teams are looking for closers and the Mets have Koch's former pitching coach while the Yanks are almost always willing to take risks on guys that were once good and still make a lot of money. Koch is just one year off a very impressive season. Plus both teams have definate voids in their pen. - If Koch is gone then the Sox have 11.75 mill to invest if the payroll is 60 mill in 3 relievers. I'd say the Sox would go with something like Hawkins, Sully, Osuna. You sign Hawkins at 4/5 mill per; Sully at a 2 yr 4 mill deal with an option for 2.5 mill and a 500 K buyout and then Osuna a 1 yr 1 mill deal or even 750 K with some incentives. Then the Sox use Munoz as their 7th reliever. Bullpen Marte - 1 mill Hawkins - 5 Mill (Assume high) Sully - 2 mill Osuna - 1 mill Wright - 500 K Wunsch - 500 K Munoz - 300 K WHICKED Total Payroll - 10.3 mill Bench Rowand - 500 Graffy - 750 Harris - 400 Alomar Jr - 750 Robin Ventura - a mill or so One guy on the bench would go to the minors, unless the Sox decide to carry 6 relievers, keeping Munoz in the minors Total payroll is about 61 million but this assumed some high estimates in a few areas. And if the Sox don't want to do that, then sign Shiggy for about 3 mill a year and you save 2 mill on not getting Hawkins or hope you can get Hawkins for a little less. I think realistically this roster could be put together more so for 57 mill or so, which would leave the Sox with some room to add during the trade deadline. I've also assumed giving our young players extensions and this team is in really good shape long term. Mario and I came up with this idea on aim today talking back and forth. I think it would be a hell of a team. Good offense, good pitching, great bullpen and a solid defense. I like some of that. But the Only thing is I don't think the Yanks will Give Johnson for Miles, Ginter and Especially Borchard who could be another Football Bust like Henson. I like your Idea at Second. I think Vina or Robbie could do for 2 years and they are both good with the Glove. The only thing is that after those 2 years who do we got in the Minors to takeover at Second? NoOne i'm afarid unless Yan turns up fast The rest is Good I think Ponson could be had at that Price As for the SS I don't think Guzman is a FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Jason, in factoring this year's $60 million salary, you didn't have the wages of the 3-4 bench players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I think everything sounds great except the Nick Johnson deal. I think the Yankees would only be interested in Ginter, to help their bullpen, and they wouldn't give up Johnson for Ginter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I think Borchard will be a bust too...the pompus jackass isn't shortening his swing or listening to coaches... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I think Borchard will be a bust too...the pompus jackass isn't shortening his swing or listening to coaches... Oh, and how do you know he isn't listening to coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I think Borchard will be a bust too...the pompus jackass isn't shortening his swing or listening to coaches... Where did you come to the conclusion that he's a pompous jackass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 1, 2003 Author Share Posted November 1, 2003 I don't think Everett will sign for half of what he made last year. And I'm surprised so many Sox fans want to trade Maggs for Soriano straight up. Maggs is worth Johnson and Soriano IMHO. But Maggs for Soriano has KW getting taken again written all over it. Not to mention, you want to give up entirely too much for an average OF in Johnson. And you want to pay a number 3 more than your number 1 and 2? Ponson ain't worth 7 million a season. He's Jon Garland, but he throws harder. I usually agree with alot of what you say. I disagree with this big time. With Ponson, I kind of agree that he would be overpiad, I'd must rather have him for 5 or 6 mill a year, but I really think of him as a little Colon. The guy throws a ton of innings, has great stuff and is rather young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Oh, and how do you know he isn't listening to coaches. I too read that he isn't shortening his swing, not sure if it has to do with him not listening though. (of course if analysts and the common fan can see he needs to shorten his swing, common logic implies that the coaches probably want to see that swing get a little shorter ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Oh, and how do you know he isn't listening to coaches. Look at the stats, bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I too read that he isn't shortening his swing, not sure if it has to do with him not listening though. (of course if analysts and the common fan can see he needs to shorten his swing, common logic implies that the coaches probably want to see that swing get a little shorter ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Hey Beastly, did you ever consider the fact that Borchard, before getting to college, never really ever played baseball, but focused mainly on football? Or that some guys take just a little. He really did not fully put things together until he was about 28(that year, he hit .315 33 123 with an OPS of right around .950-1.000). He had a few decent seasons before that too(like the year before he had an OPS of about .850-.900). He just kept gradually getting better and had 2 excellent years in a row in 2000 and 2001, then signed with the Yankees, and has since seen his production level drop. Borchard is 24 or 25. Because he has such little baseball experience, he still has a ton of potential. One or two adjustments, and he could be the next Jason Giambi. And who says he doesn't listen to coaches? I mean, he did play football, and if you play football, you have to be very coachable....which he is. It's just taking him some time to get s*** together. He should be up on the big league club in 05 and getting better every year after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 - Sox trade Joe Borchard, Matt Ginter, and Aaron Miles for Nick Johnson Realistic? Well, not this part. Just because you put together 3 pieces of crap together, it doesn't mean they get more attractive to other clubs. I hope Borchard lives up to his potential too, but at the moment, nobody will give you a player like Nic Johnson for these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 I never saw Joe B as a pompous ass or as a bit uncoachable. I just don't think he can hit. Last off season I said that I did not think he was ever going to make it, and I was villified here. He went backward in 2003. He must show some progress this year. His supporters have been using football as an excuse far too long. Is 2004 the last year for that excuse? I hope so. Regarding the low budget team, I saw no indication of Jeremy Reed. He would fit right in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 1, 2003 Author Share Posted November 1, 2003 - Sox trade Joe Borchard, Matt Ginter, and Aaron Miles for Nick Johnson Realistic? Well, not this part. Just because you put together 3 pieces of crap together, it doesn't mean they get more attractive to other clubs. I hope Borchard lives up to his potential too, but at the moment, nobody will give you a player like Nic Johnson for these guys. Well if need be, insert Jon Rauch and Joe Borchard. If the Yanks want a guy that could potentially be their future centerfielder then I'd think they would consider Borchard, plus if they got someone like Ginter and Rauch then it would be an interesting offer for them since they plan on moving Johnson. Ya, Borchard hasn't proved anything but the Sox aren't gonna give them Jeremy Reed. Borchard is still rated as one of the Sox better prospects by most scouts and I think their would be quite a few teams interested in getting him. As far as Beastly goes for calling him a pompous ass, I'd shove it. Borchard is a great kid that is very respectful. He has said numerous times that his swing needs to get shorter and that he's not yet ready for the majors. So :fyou for bashing Borchard. Just cause he hasn't lived up to his expectations doesn't make him an ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 From what i read in another thread this morning, we probably should hold on to Jon Rauch - he may be ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 1, 2003 Author Share Posted November 1, 2003 From what i read in another thread this morning, we probably should hold on to Jon Rauch - he may be ready. Agreed...the Sox could offer someone like Malone instead of Rauch. I think when it comes to minor leaguers the Sox should be smart. I still believe Borchard has value because he has such a high ceiling. Reed has defiantely passed him, but Reed is untouchable...well almost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 "- Sox trade Joe Borchard, Matt Ginter, and Aaron Miles for Nick Johnson" I would love to see Johnson in a Sox uniform, unfortunately I don't think the Yankees will take a utility infielder, middle reliver, and an outfielder on the verge of being a bust for him. They aren't looking to get rid of him that bad, and I think they would want some players that are proven and would help right out of the gate. "- Sox sign Carl Everett to a 1 yr 5 mill deal" Like someone else pointed out, I don't think Everett will take almost half of what he got this past year, especially after the solid year that he put up. "- Sox sign a shortstop (Guzman/Aurilla/Jose) for 2 mill" Guzman isn't a FA and there is no way that you get Aurilla for 2M. "Maggs is worth Johnson and Soriano IMHO" I love Maggs, but when you factor in the contracts of the 3 players there is no way that Maggs is worth Johnson and Soriano. "Not to mention, you want to give up entirely too much for an average OF in Johnson." To begin with, Johnson is a 1B and not an OF. I never knew that an OPS of .894 was average. Johnson has future star written all over him, and I would personally rather have Johnson instead of Soriano for Maggs. "Ponson ain't worth 7 million a season. He's Jon Garland, but he throws harder." 15-13 3.87 ERA 1.20 WHIP 34 GS 242 IP 223 H 30 HR 67 BB 173 SO 17-12 3.75 ERA 1.26 WHIP 31 GS 216 IP 211 H 16 HR 61 BB 134 SO Can you tell me which stats are clearly better then the other? You are underestimating Ponson. The only difference between Ponson and Colon is that Colon is a little more proven and consistant, but besides that they both have similar stuff and numbers. Maybe you should check the stats before making statements that aren't true. Comparing him to Garland shows no understand of Ponson or his ability. I will play along and show you what I would like to see done. Sign SP Ponson for 4yr/26M Sign SP Batista for 3yr/15M Sign 2B Castillo for 4yr/28M Sign OF Cameron for 3yr/21M Sign OF Lee for 3yr/18M Sign SP Garland for 3yr/ 4.5M Sign SP Buehrle for 4yr/18M Sign RP Timlin for 2yr/5M Sign RP Ligtenberg for 3yr/6M Sign IF Graffy for 3yr/3M Sign OF Daubach for 2yr/2M Trade OF Ordonez to NYY for 1B Johnson and SP/MI prospect Trade 1B Konerko and cash to Seattle for SS Guillen Trade RP Koch and cash to NYM for a SP/MI prospect Your lineup would look like this: 2B Castillo(7M) SS Guillen(3M) LF Lee(6M) DH Thomas(6M) 1B Johnson(500K) CF Cameron(7M) 3B Crede(500K) RF Rowand/Reed/Borchard(500K) C Olivo(500K) total 31M LH Buehrle(4.5M) RH Ponson(6.5M) RH Loaiza(4M) RH Batista(5M) RH Garland(1.5M) total 21.5M RH Timlin(2.5M) RH Ligtenberg(2M) LH Marte(500K) LH Wunsch(500K) RH Wright(500K) RH Ginter/Rauch/Diaz(500K) total 6.5M IF Graffy(1M) OF Daubach(1M) OF Borchard/Reed(500K) C Rivera/Burke(500K) IF Harris/Miles(500K) total 3.5M TOTAL PAYROLL: 62.5m + approx 3.5M(cash involved in Konerko and Koch trades) 65M 65M is a little more then JR is going to spend this year, but it shows that for just a little more then 60M the Sox can put an extremely talented team together that is improved in EVERY facet of the game. This is my DREAM team(semi-realistic) for 2004. Oh well. Its fun to speculate and will be interesting to see what KW and company will do this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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