JoeC Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 10-5 over the Rox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Amazing but even the worst teams win 50 or 60 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 Well, still deserves a win thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, JoeC said: Well, still deserves a win thread On one hand, some fans are bitching about a win. On the other hand, it was nice to see a win and some hits by Sosa, Moncada and Colas. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 30 minutes ago, The Beast said: On one hand, some fans are bitching about a win. On the other hand, it was nice to see a win and some hits by Sosa, Moncada and Colas. I like White Sox wins and hate losing and tanking. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeC said: Well, still deserves a win thread Yep. White Sox Supercut coming right up. Trigger warning - Yoan gets a double. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said: I like White Sox wins and hate losing and tanking. Tanking only gets so far in terms of the odds of the draft pick anyway. At some point you want to see the team win and members on future teams contribute in whatever role possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, The Beast said: Tanking only gets so far in terms of the odds of the draft pick anyway. At some point you want to see the team win and members on future teams contribute in whatever role possible. To me "tanking" is productive if you are playing younger players regularly to determine whether they hold future value, and are not concerned whether this impacts wins and losses. If you're playing guys like Elvis and Grandal (if Seby ever returns) regularly, than you're not doing it right. Same as in 2017-2109 when Hahn signed several veterans, some expensive, instead of taking chances on younger players and claims of other younger players who might have made a difference in the 2020s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said: I like White Sox wins and hate losing and tanking. Oh look, a meaningless 49th win late August! Oh yay! Edited August 21, 2023 by Bob Sacamano 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: To me "tanking" is productive if you are playing younger players regularly to determine whether they hold future value, and are not concerned whether this impacts wins and losses. If you're playing guys like Elvis and Grandal (if Seby ever returns) regularly, than you're not doing it right. Same as in 2017-2109 when Hahn signed several veterans, some expensive, instead of taking chances on younger players and claims of other younger players who might have made a difference in the 2020s. To a point. There is value in helping a vet rebuild value for a half a season and flipping him for a prospect, especially if you don't have viable long term solutions already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Remember when Cliff Politte, who for some reason was batting, pulled back a bunt vs the Rockies to go the other way for a RBI 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Hooray the Sox won a game. That's all I got and that's all they deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: To me "tanking" is productive if you are playing younger players regularly to determine whether they hold future value, and are not concerned whether this impacts wins and losses. If you're playing guys like Elvis and Grandal (if Seby ever returns) regularly, than you're not doing it right. Same as in 2017-2109 when Hahn signed several veterans, some expensive, instead of taking chances on younger players and claims of other younger players who might have made a difference in the 2020s. That is fair, but consider the remaining games. Should Sosa and Perez start every game or most games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, The Beast said: That is fair, but consider the remaining games. Should Sosa and Perez start every game or most games? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, JoeC said: To a point. There is value in helping a vet rebuild value for a half a season and flipping him for a prospect, especially if you don't have viable long term solutions already Agreed, but the deadline is gone so FAs like Elvis and Grandal can no longer be flipped. Also don't have to go out and sign guys like Welington Castillo ($14.5M), Kelvin Herrera ($19M), John Jay ($4M) and Parrot ($12M) when you're not going anywhere and then claim "the money has been spent." and have perennial holes at C, 2B and RF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Beast said: That is fair, but consider the remaining games. Should Sosa and Perez start every game or most games? If they are on the ML roster, yes. If not, let them develop in Charlotte. They should play most games. I'm somewhat OK with a 32 year old Trayce Thompson because I don't believe they have another player in the system who can cover defensively CF for Robert, and you don't want the pitchers killed by a lack of OF defense. Also, Sheets should never play another inning in RF/LF the rest of the season or career with the Sox if he returns in 2024 beyond an emergency injury situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I'm going to remember this win for minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Texsox said: I'm going to remember this win for minutes. I'll be able to sleep well tonight....because I'm very tired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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