Garfein's latest podcast 8/22...

[Lip Man 1]

Garfien’s latest podcast dropped this evening. Garfien, McGuffy, Ozzie and Podsednik involved.

Highlights of comments:

McGuffy: Kenny being fired was a surprise. Knew there had to be changes. It needed to happen. Kudos to JR for making the decision.

Ozzie: 500,000 Sox fans today love JR.

Pods: Shocked this happened in August, move was made on behalf of the fans. They deserved better, they were promised multiple championships and parades and that never happened. More changes are coming.

McGuffy: There was no clear leadership structure. You have to bring in the best players. Sox are at the top of the list on how to fail at a rebuild.

Pods: What is the structure/ identity of this team?

Garfien: There was massive dysfunction.

Pods: Leaders are supposed to take risks.

McGuffy: Kenny was never around when the Sox lost 7-8 in a row. He got in the way. Both had to be fired. One guy wanted Bryce Harper, the other wanted to sign him, his way. One guy wanted Manny Machado. The other guy wanted to sign him to a cheap ass contract. Development was bad, drafting was bad. It was a complete disgrace.

Ozzie: You can’t hurry the G.M. hire. Need the right attitude, have to be careful.

McGuffy: Grifol is now on an island. If they were going to name either Getz or Haber as the new G.M. why not do it tonight? Haber is a bad idea. (Ozzie didn’t know who he was.)

Pods: Season is only a disaster if they don’t learn from it.

McGuffy: What killed this was ego and who has the power.

Ozzie: Kenny has a big ego.

McGuffy: Never told this story before. Last year Sox had won five straight, they beat Houston and were closing in on Cleveland they were like 62-58. Kaplan called McGuffy and “Puffy chested” Kenny got on the phone why I don’t know. “I just want to let you know I’m still fucking around.” Why would he call me? When we talk about things it’s not personal. Everyone let this type of s%*# get in the way of things.

Garfien: Dysfunction between Kenny and Rick resulted in the Burger trade. 

McGuffy: Kenny made that trade. How was that OK? Rick did not want to deal him. Pressure now is on the kid they got in the trade.

Garfien: Organization looked on the back of baseball cards to try to build a team. (I took this as a shot at guys like Haber who seem to rely just on analytics) Maybe that’s how an MIT educated guy might try to do it but you need more than that, you have to have more than just talent, what’s inside of a guy? What’s inside Moncada? What does he have inside to try to win?

Ozzie: JR spent money but they spent it on the wrong people.

McGuffy: What would things be like if Renteria was still the manager? They played hard for him. Hiring Tony LaRussa kick started the tsunami.

Pods: Fans want to see guys that will sacrifice their body to catch a baseball.

Garfien: Suggested former G.M. Dan Duquette as the next Sox G.M.

Ozzie: Suggested former Astros G.M. Jeff Luhnow as the next Sox G.M.

McGuffy: Talked about Theo Epstein. Call him, make him tell you no! Give him an offer...make him say no.

Ozzie: Sox don’t have enough money for Epstein.

Ozzie: Grifol will be back next year, Getz knows him. If Getz is named G.M. he’ll be back.

Garfien: I want former Major League ballers in this fucking system at all levels. Guys who have been through it, who knew what it was like to play and be in tough times. A rookie is struggling and goes to a coach for help. Sox coaches have no idea about this because they have never been there!

McGuffy: This isn’t over, they need to fire some of these players now.

Ozzie: Discussion turned to him as a possible manager. Said he likes his broadcasting job and would not sit for an interview. “How many years…how much money?” is all he’d want to know.

All agreed more changes are coming to this organization.  

 

 

Edited August 23, 2023 by Lip Man 1

[Quin]

I enjoyed Guff and Podsednik's part on the podcast, but what I absolutely love about this episode was the fact that they kept hammering home that KW and Hahn had their jobs in large part due to 2005.

• Then Ozzie "joked" about how he should have been hired manager over Pedro (he said it was his son's joke, but he had to tell everyone).
• Chuck's suggestion for GM was to sign Dan Duquette because he helped lay the groundwork for the 2004 Red Sox, even though his most recent work was a s%*# Orioles run.