Lip Man 1 Posted Friday at 04:25 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:25 PM Jim Margalus story on Getz and "foundation": https://soxmachine.com/2024/09/good-luck-seeing-a-foundation-in-hole-white-sox-dug/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted Friday at 04:33 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:33 PM 2 hours ago, T R U said: So were all over here having a meltdown on the Dolphins message board I post on and one of the posters made an excellent comment about the Dolphins GM that I think fits absolutely perfect with the White Sox situation. "It's hard to blame Grier for one reason. He didn't force himself into this position. Someone hired him and someone refuses to acknowledge Grier has some serious liabilities. You can't fault Grier for taking a high level job if someone's going to give it to him. The problem is above Grier's paygrade." It's true, but it also doesn't remove all guilt from Getz. Part of the job. He may be unqualified, and I can separate two different things. 1. He shouldn't be in this job and Jerry is the one that deserves heat & 2. Getz is still the one making decisions, and we can be upset with those decisions. We can be mad at both. But I agree with the general principle that I don't blame Getz for accepting the job. That's not on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Friday at 04:38 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:38 PM Love anything as much as a team owner loves to hire an unqualified guy to do a highly qualified job, in the hopes that he figures it out (and the owner can pay him peanuts until he does) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted Friday at 04:41 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:41 PM On 9/11/2024 at 4:58 AM, Dick Allen said: Considering they are 6-46 their last 52, it would seem impossible to hit the 40 win mark. They currently might even be worse than their record. It does worry me that there are nine games against Oakland and California, even though they are both 25 games better than the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted Friday at 04:42 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:42 PM On 9/11/2024 at 12:49 PM, LittleHurtCG said: One of those playoff appearances was the covid year and deserves an asterik. TLR got the most out of the players and mircalously won the division the next year. Two playoff appearances with no series wins is not a successful rebuild in no, way, shape, or form. Even more so due to the fact that Hahn was trying to emulate the Cubs and Astros rebuild. Also they expanded the playoffs that one-off year. They don’t get in without expanded playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted Friday at 04:47 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:47 PM (edited) 7 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said: Also they expanded the playoffs that one-off year. They don’t get in without expanded playoffs. Actually, they would have. They had the second best record non-division leading teams so they would have been second wild card team. They just had a lower seed due to Second Place teams being seeded higher, and the Sox being the third best team in their division (tied for 2nd with Cleve but Clev had the better H2H record). Now, if they had to actually play a full season and had to go through that grind, they would not have made it to the playoffs. Edited Friday at 04:49 PM by Bob Sacamano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted Friday at 04:51 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:51 PM 9 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said: It does worry me that there are nine games against Oakland and California, even though they are both 25 games better than the Sox. Even if they do the impossible and get a streak against these bad teams going, they remain #1 in all of our hearts as the worst team we have ever fucking seen in our lives 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted Friday at 05:07 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:07 PM 33 minutes ago, Tony said: It's true, but it also doesn't remove all guilt from Getz. Part of the job. He may be unqualified, and I can separate two different things. 1. He shouldn't be in this job and Jerry is the one that deserves heat & 2. Getz is still the one making decisions, and we can be upset with those decisions. We can be mad at both. But I agree with the general principle that I don't blame Getz for accepting the job. That's not on him. Oh for sure, Getz has been terrible. I just meant the root cause of the problem is JR, but we all knew that anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted Friday at 05:10 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:10 PM 17 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Even if they do the impossible and get a streak against these bad teams going, they remain #1 in all of our hearts as the worst team we have ever fucking seen in our lives Yeah these bad teams are still 27 and 31 games better than the White Sox lol. They need to go 10-5 to avoid 120 losses which is, as you said, impossible. I think 5-10 is their best case scenario at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted Friday at 05:21 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:21 PM Also on a funny note, the Angels suck. They have 4 wins in their last 10 games while the White Sox have 6 wins since July 10th So yeah, these are bad teams they're playing but in perspective they are considerably better than the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted Friday at 05:40 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:40 PM 18 minutes ago, T R U said: Also on a funny note, the Angels suck. They have 4 wins in their last 10 games while the White Sox have 6 wins since July 10th So yeah, these are bad teams they're playing but in perspective they are considerably better than the Sox. Look, "bad" 99.9% of the time is what the Angels are, but the Sox are like a 7th standard deviation fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted Friday at 06:27 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:27 PM 1 hour ago, T R U said: Yeah these bad teams are still 27 and 31 games better than the White Sox lol. They need to go 10-5 to avoid 120 losses which is, as you said, impossible. I think 5-10 is their best case scenario at this point. The Angels being 27 games better than the White Sox is like a 92 win team playing a 65 win team. In that case, the better team is probably going to win most of the games, but they'd be happy going 4-2 and winning both series, it's still not a blowout, and sometimes the worse team might still win 3 or 4 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted Friday at 06:58 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:58 PM (edited) 31 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: The Angels being 27 games better than the White Sox is like a 92 win team playing a 65 win team. In that case, the better team is probably going to win most of the games, but they'd be happy going 4-2 and winning both series, it's still not a blowout, and sometimes the worse team might still win 3 or 4 games. The White Sox have won 3 or 4 games per month since July. I think a 65 win team would probably be insulted to be used in a comparison with whatever were putting out on the field. Edited Friday at 06:58 PM by T R U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted Friday at 07:58 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:58 PM 1 hour ago, T R U said: The White Sox have won 3 or 4 games per month since July. I think a 65 win team would probably be insulted to be used in a comparison with whatever were putting out on the field. "Per month"? You're also exaggerating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted Friday at 08:04 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:04 PM 7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: "Per month"? You're also exaggerating. Not lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted Friday at 08:09 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:09 PM 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: "Per month"? You're also exaggerating. I wish. Since July that’s not an exaggeration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted Friday at 08:22 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:22 PM 13 minutes ago, T R U said: I wish. Since July that’s not an exaggeration. No 4 games per month since July would be 9-10 wins. You're exaggerating, it's not nearly that high. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted Friday at 08:56 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:56 PM 33 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: No 4 games per month since July would be 9-10 wins. You're exaggerating, it's not nearly that high. 3-22 in July 4-22 in August 2-8 in September. They are on a roll Schriffen said they were making a statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted Saturday at 12:16 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:16 AM 3 hours ago, Dick Allen said: 3-22 in July 4-22 in August 2-8 in September. They are on a roll Schriffen said they were making a statement. They are really playing above themselves in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted Saturday at 12:44 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:44 AM 8 hours ago, Tony said: It's true, but it also doesn't remove all guilt from Getz. Part of the job. He may be unqualified, and I can separate two different things. 1. He shouldn't be in this job and Jerry is the one that deserves heat & 2. Getz is still the one making decisions, and we can be upset with those decisions. We can be mad at both. But I agree with the general principle that I don't blame Getz for accepting the job. That's not on him. Getz only got this opportunity by snitching out the incompetence of his direct managers while at the same time not acknowledging his own shortcomings as the head of our player development function. He partially deserves blame for taking advantage of stubborn, gullible old man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted Saturday at 12:46 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:46 AM 30 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said: They are really playing above themselves in September. Its still early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted Saturday at 01:48 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:48 AM “I know, we’ll bring in veteran leadership, that’ll solve it.” 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted Saturday at 02:02 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:02 AM 14 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: “I know, we’ll bring in veteran leadership, that’ll solve it.” He also proclaimed the pitching was fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted Saturday at 02:05 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:05 AM Worst offense imaginable. Fire this freaking idiot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted Saturday at 02:09 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:09 AM 7 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: He also proclaimed the pitching was fixed. Which is weird because the last time he talked, he said his number 1 priority this offseason was to fix the bullpen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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