caulfield12 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 6 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Please Getzy, name one real accomplishment from the 2024 season. I'll try to refrain from laughing in your face. Crochet and Fedde...the end. Until the Vargas trade undid all the good of the latter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/11/09/chicago-white-sox-chris-getz-analytics-brian-bannister-brian-mahler-ryan-fuller-yoan-moncada-garrett-crochet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 From MLB.com: 29. White Sox (24.3 WAR) Top free agents: RHP Mike Clevinger, RHP Chris Flexen, 3B Yoán Moncada Biggest needs: Where to start? Not last! Not, you know, good, but not last. (Remember, again: the projections care about the players here and what they might do in 2025 – not that the 2024 team lost 121 games.) It should go without saying that new manager Will Venable arrives to find a roster that needs improvement basically everywhere, and that contention in 2025 is not exactly the goal. There are really only three questions that matter, right now: Will ace Garrett Crochet get traded? If so, to who, for what? Will center fielder Luis Robert Jr. rebound from a brutal year? If so, when does he get traded? A year from now, which young players show that they’re part of the next good Sox team? It’s that last question that seems most interesting, and most important. If the 2025 season gives you confidence that Colson Montgomery or Drew Thorpe or Miguel Vargas or Ky Bush or Edgar Quero are going to be contributors, while Noah Schultz and Hagen Smith progress towards the bigs, it can be a successful season. If they don’t? Competitive baseball could be years away on the South Side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: From MLB.com: 29. White Sox (24.3 WAR) Top free agents: RHP Mike Clevinger, RHP Chris Flexen, 3B Yoán Moncada Biggest needs: Where to start? Not last! Not, you know, good, but not last. (Remember, again: the projections care about the players here and what they might do in 2025 – not that the 2024 team lost 121 games.) It should go without saying that new manager Will Venable arrives to find a roster that needs improvement basically everywhere, and that contention in 2025 is not exactly the goal. There are really only three questions that matter, right now: Will ace Garrett Crochet get traded? If so, to who, for what? Will center fielder Luis Robert Jr. rebound from a brutal year? If so, when does he get traded? A year from now, which young players show that they’re part of the next good Sox team? It’s that last question that seems most interesting, and most important. If the 2025 season gives you confidence that Colson Montgomery or Drew Thorpe or Miguel Vargas or Ky Bush or Edgar Quero are going to be contributors, while Noah Schultz and Hagen Smith progress towards the bigs, it can be a successful season. If they don’t? Competitive baseball could be years away on the South Side. Could be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 Ahead of the Phillies? From the same article… 6. Twins (44.5 WAR) Top free agents: OF Max Kepler, 1B Carlos Santana, INF Kyle Farmer Biggest needs: Right-handed bats at first or corner outfield; bullpen The first five teams: Yes, sure, all makes sense. The sixth: Wow, Minnesota, really? A disappointing 2024 turns into a more highly ranked start to 2025 than you’d think, simply because they are not losing much production from the 2024 team. There remains a great deal of talent on this roster, although, as always, it remains difficult to actually rely on Carlos Correa, Byron Buxton, and Royce Lewis to be healthy at the same time. Unlike other teams with a truly massive hole to fill at the moment, the Twins could field a reasonable 2025 lineup at every position and most of a pitching staff right now. If the season began today, they’d be in good shape. (It does not start today.) That means that as other teams add, and the Twins likely remain relatively quiet on the market, this ranking is likely to drop. They need some kind of right-handed hitter, preferably one in the corner outfield. Like everyone, they could use another bullpen arm or three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 I thought this was an awesome article. It shows that the Twins have a lot of talent, but projection systems have trouble predicting injuries and boneheaded manager decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 3 hours ago, Timmy U said: I thought this was an awesome article. It shows that the Twins have a lot of talent, but projection systems have trouble predicting injuries and boneheaded manager decisions. The irony is that the Twins are the other team in the AL Central in the process of being sold and quite likely rebuilding after shedding $20-30 million in salary last off season due largely to an RSN revenue short fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 On 11/8/2024 at 5:18 PM, hi8is said: The press conference introducing Venable was absolutely gross… Specifically Getz. He said he was “proud of what we have accomplished in the last year.” Dude. Last years quote about how he “didn’t like their team” got put on T shirts. The team banned those shirts from the ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 That trade still puzzles me as to wonder why any scouts would give a blessing on that. I still think it's a decade away. Could be longer if TLR is around and Reinsdorf is a master at destroying winning and losing fans. People don't think it could get worse but worse keeps getting redefined in the Sox kingdom. Would not be surprised if 130 losses happen without your ace and a CF who has to make up for the deficiencies of the outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Last years quote about how he “didn’t like their team” got put on T shirts. The team banned those shirts from the ballpark. I ate 7 mini ice cream sandwiches yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Last years quote about how he “didn’t like their team” got put on T shirts. The team banned those shirts from the ballpark. I couldn’t believe this was actually true until I looked it up. Wow. https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-white-sox/fan-says-white-sox-security-forced-them-to-cover-t-shirts-because-of-reinsdorf/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 10 Share Posted November 10 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I couldn’t believe this was actually true until I looked it up. Wow. https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-white-sox/fan-says-white-sox-security-forced-them-to-cover-t-shirts-because-of-reinsdorf/ Would have been funnier if the players themselves printed them...that would have more of a "Major League" movie feel to it. We did have Benintendi getting charged up at the end of the year when some fans were booing wins with the loss record in sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 6 hours ago, caulfield12 said: We did have Benintendi getting charged up at the end of the year when some fans were booing wins with the loss record in sight. I would like to see a video of this 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 9 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I couldn’t believe this was actually true until I looked it up. Wow. https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-white-sox/fan-says-white-sox-security-forced-them-to-cover-t-shirts-because-of-reinsdorf/ Yeah. So, is Getz going to be honest about anything any more? Nah. Everything was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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