The Grinder Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Go from bad to worse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: The logic of this hire is mindboggling to me. If Getz being the GM was the fastest way to perennial success like JR says in the press release, why wasn't he moved into this role a lot sooner? Failed lackies from a failed regime will keep failing. Enjoy your laughingstock status JR. JR couldn't figure out which one to fire until he was left with no choice but to s%*# can both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, The Grinder said: A part of me says to give him a chance Another part says Ohhh F******** ANother part says Go Brewers Don't want to speak for all Sox fans, but I believe most are on the same page...this isn't really about Chris Getz the person. Yes, his role as Director of the Minor Leagues has not gone well, but quite frankly I don't think many of us actually know what goes into the day to day of that job, and I also believe the way the entire organization is set up puts all players behind the 8Ball so to speak. This isn't about Chris Getz the man, it's about the process and the person in his role getting this title, without a search to boot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Tony said: Don't want to speak for all Sox fans, but I believe most are on the same page...this isn't really about Chris Getz the person. Yes, his role as Director of the Minor Leagues has not gone well, but quite frankly I don't think many of us actually know what goes into the day to day of that job, and I also believe the way the entire organization is set up puts all players behind the 8Ball so to speak. This isn't about Chris Getz the man, it's about the process and the person in his role getting this title, without a search to boot. I’m more disappointed there won’t be fresh blood to give an honest assessment of the “core players”. It’s time the organization stops overrating Eloy and Vaughn, etc 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: The logic of this hire is mindboggling to me. If Getz being the GM was the fastest way to perennial success like JR says in the press release, why wasn't he moved into this role a lot sooner? Failed lackies from a failed regime will keep failing. Enjoy your laughingstock status JR. I have zero evidence of this, but I think it's very likely the last task Jerry asked of Rick and Kenny was to give them their endorsement of who should be the next GM. And it stands to reason they would say Getz, and what do you know... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) This could be a good hire in ten years. Not today Edited August 31, 2023 by Vacheron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: It's a positive in Jerry's mind. He created the EVP position not for strategic planning or organization management but rather as a result of the blowup of Ozzie vs. Kenny in 2012 and to keep "his son" and his friend's son on the payroll. Also, Jerry has no interest of poaching anyone from any external organization as the Chris Getz hire proves, and also has no interest in other teams poaching his staff, as proved by the blocking of Kenny and Rick and likely others to pursue external opportunities. Someone needs to challenge baseball's anti-trust exemption to break these unfair labor rules. People should be able to get a job with any organization they are qualified, be it a minor league player trying to avoid Jerry's mandated covid jab, or a front office person looking to leave a toxic organization like the White Sox. They did bring in Getz from the outside. The minor league pitching and hitting coordinator were from the outside. Marco Paddy was too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, fathom said: I’m more disappointed there won’t be fresh blood to give an honest assessment of the “core players”. It’s time the organization stops overrating Eloy and Vaughn, etc Of course. Chris Getz is his own man, but he spent two seasons as an assistant with the Royals, and most of his executive career with the Sox, reporting to Rick and Kenny. He's been tainted. In any role, you learn from your superiors, those that have come before you, they guide you and try and make you a better employee for not only the role you're in, but the role you want to get. And that guidance has been coming from two guys the same organization decided should no longer be here. It literally makes no sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I have an issue with Chris Getz's title. Giving him the GM title as the lead decision maker is a mistake imo. It doesn't let you poach from other orgs. If he were given the title of President of Baseball OPS, you could then hire a GM from somewhere and inflate the title to get another smart person in the org. Carter Hawkins isn't in charge of baseball ops but the Cubs were able to take him by elevating his title essentially. It's happened all over the sport. I honestly think there is an imminent sale coming within the next 2 years and who's in charge of baseball operations will be their problem and not the current ownership. They're just going to let this thing tank into the abyss in the meantime. At least that's what I'm hoping for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfaninfl Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Honestly, Getz would earn a lot of respect from me if he tells Pedro to clean out his locker. Why do I not see that happening? Just a death march to bad and losing baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Jerry doesn’t want outside the organization and it’s clear. Woof. This is all a circle jerk lol. Pointless til he’s gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 59 minutes ago, bmags said: I like the graphic. It's showing the skyline just caving and descending into blackness. THat's accurate White Sox baseball: fade to black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Congrats to Getz on getting job security on steroids. I wonder who the next GM will be in 2034? ?He will definitley be the GM of the White Sox until finally Jerry getz lost for good. I was hoping it getz better, but it only seems to getz worse around here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Nothing like a long exhaustive search exploring all options I swear this organization could butter the wrong side of a butter sandwich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Pedro got hired because he said what KW and RH wanted to hear. Getz gets hired and JR mentions Getz says what he wants to hear. The problem is, this organization is messed up from top to bottom. Fixing it requires things they don't want to hear. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Yeah I kind of feel bad for Getz. Unless he is able to somehow overcome the organizational ineptitude, he's 100% set up to fail. That said.... go Brewers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 49 minutes ago, bmags said: LMAO this press release is brutal. hahahahahahaha https://www.mlb.com/news/chris-getz-named-white-sox-general-manager?partnerID=web_article-share It's official. I believe this has reached the level of trolling, at least on some level. He hears the fan revolt, he is stubborn and resentful about it, and he is sticking this in our face to show who's boss. I think the cancellation of Soxfest was at least partially a "punishment" along the same lines. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: Pedro got hired because he said what KW and RH wanted to hear. Getz gets hired and JR mentions Getz says what he wants to hear. The problem is, this organization is messed up from top to bottom. Fixing it requires things they don't want to hear. If you're Jerry...why put in that work? He's 87. He can make money on a team that loses 100 games. Certainly not as much money as if his team won 100 games, but that would clearly require a lot of time and energy to get the organization in a better place. What's the point? He's lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Grinder said: Go from bad to worse While the Getz hire is terrible, I rather dive into his unknown vs what we already knew as a failed leadership under Hahn and KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, JoeC said: Yeah I kind of feel bad for Getz. Unless he is able to somehow overcome the organizational ineptitude, he's 100% set up to fail. That said.... go Brewers? I don't feel bad for him. I'm pretty sure if there were 29 other GM openings this winter, he would land none of them 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 If Getz wants to win me over, he'll claim ReyLo and Lucas for the lols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, HOFHurt35 said: While the Getz hire is terrible, I rather dive into his unknown vs what we already knew as a failed leadership under Hahn and KW. I will give them this. It very well could be the same. Maybe even a 99% chance. But at least there is a slight chance it will be different from the previous clown show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Griffol was hired because that's who Getz wanted. Griffol is not going anywhere. And for those thinking that this hire was in preparation of JR selling in a couple of years. That makes no sense. If JR was going to sell in the near future, he would try and MAXIMIZE the value. This hire does the opposite. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 23 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I have an issue with Chris Getz's title. Giving him the GM title as the lead decision maker is a mistake imo. It doesn't let you poach from other orgs. If he were given the title of President of Baseball OPS, you could then hire a GM from somewhere and inflate the title to get another smart person in the org. Carter Hawkins isn't in charge of baseball ops but the Cubs were able to take him by elevating his title essentially. It's happened all over the sport. lol what makes you think they would even entertain the idea of doing something like this anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: While the Getz hire is terrible, I rather dive into his unknown vs what we already knew as a failed leadership under Hahn and KW. The problem is...those don't have to be the only two options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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