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[Lip Man 1]

Summary of podcast comments from around baseball shows.

Sox Talk with Garfien and McGuffey:

McGuff: “This is a fail-up situation. Part of me is frustrated, part of me is curious because he is a new voice. If you are a Sox fan you either live with it or shop elsewhere. (meaning find a new team)”

Gar: “They didn’t do a massive search; it was a wasted opportunity.”

McGuff: “I agree. Why wouldn’t you want to talk to other people… to get a better idea of your team? It was malpractice not to do this to take the opportunity to examine themselves.”

“A big problem was the message was different from the minor leagues to the major leagues.”

Gar: “I can promise you Getz will not be Kenny/Rick version 2.0.”

“He was facing an uphill battle because of the dysfunction between Kenny and Rick,”

“It wasn’t Chris’ fault guys were rushed to the big leagues.”

McGuff: “The comment in the press release about wanting one voice was very important. That came from JR. He was tired of different people telling him different things.”

“Getz wants more voices in the discussion but he also wants them to line up with his vision.”

“Getz can relate to people; he played in the big leagues and that matters.”

Gar: “Getz sees the problems with this roster, I’ve had conversations with him. He knows what needs to change.”

McGuff: “The question is will he have the ability to tell JR, ‘we need to eat x amount of dollars and get rid of some guys. You can’t show up at spring training with the same guys on this roster, you just can’t.”

“You have got to move on from some of these players.”

Gar: “You have to eat Moncada’s money. I can’t watch him anymore. Sign a guy for a million dollars to play third base, he won’t have as much potential but if he’s a good clubhouse guy it will be better.”

McGuff: “Next year is a bridge year to 2025, they aren’t going to win next year.”

“There’s a strong likelihood that some of these guys will be gone under Getz but would still be around under Kenny/Hahn.”

Gar: “He knows how to make a good team. He’s an excellent communicator. There’s talent at Birmingham and maybe some of these guys will turn into good players.”

McGuff: “You need a strong Major League coaching staff and the Sox don’t have it right now.” 

“If they start next year 7-21 again in April changes need to be made right then.”

“Salvy Perez will be the Sox opening day catcher next year.” 

“The Sox need to end this Royals connection.”

“Fans don’t trust this organization.”

Gar: “Chris was not put in a position to succeed but her has some big decisions to make now.”

McGuff: “Chris needs to explain why things will be different and he knows it.”

“Moncada and Jiminez can’t be back next year they have got to go.” 

Foul Territory with A.J. Pierzynski

“I know Chris, I played with him, He’s a good guy.”

“But they don’t have one player they developed from rookie ball right on up in seven years he’s been in charge of the minor leagues.”

“I played with Omar Vizquel; I know Wes Helms. Those were awful and Getz knew about it but nothing happened until public outcry.”

“They didn’t talk to anybody; Rizzo wasn’t coming and that’s on JR.”

“I never heard any other organization say, ‘we need to get Getz for our organization.”

“This is typical JR, a comfortable hire.”

“Getz went to JR concerning issues with Kenny Williams Junior and JR took care of it.” 

“I need to see kids develop in the minor leagues.”

“On these decisions there’s Jerry and Jerry.”

“JR only listens to Tony LaRussa and Jim Thome.” 

“I watch every White Sox game; I want them to do well.”

Adam Jones was part of the discussion and he said this:

“It’s a s%*# show over there. He’s got an uphill battle.”

Tom Verducci then joined the show:

“I don’t love the scenario, why not give yourself a chance to see if there’s others out there. There was no hurry, this could have waited till the end of the year.”

“No one has developed. I don’t see players getter better.”

“I wasn’t high on this team unlike others. They were to right-handed, hit to many ground balls and chased to many bad pitches.”

“Something needs to change.”

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[fathom]

I agree that they need to find a way to get rid of Yoan, as it’s clear these guys have been told he’s a cancer.  It’s just upsetting they got rid of Burger if this was the plan.  

[TheBooneLoganEra]

2 hours ago, fathom said:

I agree that they need to find a way to get rid of Yoan, as it’s clear these guys have been told he’s a cancer.  It’s just upsetting they got rid of Burger if this was the plan.  

You said it right there. The trade of Burger is a much larger failure now in light of their commitment to compete immediately and the continued talk of Moncada as a problem. KW really screwed us otw out. 

[Sox72]

8 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Summary of podcast comments from around baseball shows.

Sox Talk with Garfien and McGuffey:

McGuff: “This is a fail-up situation. Part of me is frustrated, part of me is curious because he is a new voice. If you are a Sox fan you either live with it or shop elsewhere. (meaning find a new team)”

Gar: “They didn’t do a massive search; it was a wasted opportunity.”

McGuff: “I agree. Why wouldn’t you want to talk to other people… to get a better idea of your team? It was malpractice not to do this to take the opportunity to examine themselves.”

“A big problem was the message was different from the minor leagues to the major leagues.”

Gar: “I can promise you Getz will not be Kenny/Rick version 2.0.”

“He was facing an uphill battle because of the dysfunction between Kenny and Rick,”

“It wasn’t Chris’ fault guys were rushed to the big leagues.”

McGuff: “The comment in the press release about wanting one voice was very important. That came from JR. He was tired of different people telling him different things.”

“Getz wants more voices in the discussion but he also wants them to line up with his vision.”

“Getz can relate to people; he played in the big leagues and that matters.”

Gar: “Getz sees the problems with this roster, I’ve had conversations with him. He knows what needs to change.”

McGuff: “The question is will he have the ability to tell JR, ‘we need to eat x amount of dollars and get rid of some guys. You can’t show up at spring training with the same guys on this roster, you just can’t.”

“You have got to move on from some of these players.”

Gar: “You have to eat Moncada’s money. I can’t watch him anymore. Sign a guy for a million dollars to play third base, he won’t have as much potential but if he’s a good clubhouse guy it will be better.”

McGuff: “Next year is a bridge year to 2025, they aren’t going to win next year.”

“There’s a strong likelihood that some of these guys will be gone under Getz but would still be around under Kenny/Hahn.”

Gar: “He knows how to make a good team. He’s an excellent communicator. There’s talent at Birmingham and maybe some of these guys will turn into good players.”

McGuff: “You need a strong Major League coaching staff and the Sox don’t have it right now.” 

“If they start next year 7-21 again in April changes need to be made right then.”

“Salvy Perez will be the Sox opening day catcher next year.” 

“The Sox need to end this Royals connection.”

“Fans don’t trust this organization.”

Gar: “Chris was not put in a position to succeed but her has some big decisions to make now.”

McGuff: “Chris needs to explain why things will be different and he knows it.”

“Moncada and Jiminez can’t be back next year they have got to go.” 

Foul Territory with A.J. Pierzynski

“I know Chris, I played with him, He’s a good guy.”

“But they don’t have one player they developed from rookie ball right on up in seven years he’s been in charge of the minor leagues.”

“I played with Omar Vizquel; I know Wes Helms. Those were awful and Getz knew about it but nothing happened until public outcry.”

“They didn’t talk to anybody; Rizzo wasn’t coming and that’s on JR.”

“I never heard any other organization say, ‘we need to get Getz for our organization.”

“This is typical JR, a comfortable hire.”

“Getz went to JR concerning issues with Kenny Williams Junior and JR took care of it.” 

“I need to see kids develop in the minor leagues.”

“On these decisions there’s Jerry and Jerry.”

“JR only listens to Tony LaRussa and Jim Thome.” 

“I watch every White Sox game; I want them to do well.”

Adam Jones was part of the discussion and he said this:

“It’s a s%*# show over there. He’s got an uphill battle.”

Tom Verducci then joined the show:

“I don’t love the scenario, why not give yourself a chance to see if there’s others out there. There was no hurry, this could have waited till the end of the year.”

“No one has developed. I don’t see players getter better.”

“I wasn’t high on this team unlike others. They were to right-handed, hit to many ground balls and chased to many bad pitches.”

“Something needs to change.”

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, I guess this is finally it. I think I truly have to consider another team. And I’m shocked to even type it. Dodgers, I guess? Just enjoy and experience the polar opposite side of the pendulum? 

[GreenSox]

I'm glad Gar and McGuff aren't the GM.  Mercy!