9/5 Sox@Royals

[South Side Hit Men]

1 hour ago, kitekrazy said:

I'll report you for child abuse.

His son will be fine if he wears this. Worth the $450 when you enter Jerry Reinsdorf's Shooting Gallery.

https://wonderhoodie.com/products/kids-bullet-proof-hoodie?variant=13837983449143

 

 

[Chisoxfn]

2 hours ago, Soxfest said:

He knows he is not being held accountable for anything, best of both worlds.

I actually think they will fire him. 

[caulfield12]

4 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

I actually think they will fire him. 

Isn't that going to make Getz look untruthful?

Or he's just going to later say some gobbledygook about just trying to get through the front office transition...continuity or stability were most important in that moment for the major league roster to focus on....preparing for 2024, blah blah blah?

 

Or like the dreaded vote of confidence for football and basketball coaches in mid-season?

Edited September 6, 2023 by caulfield12

[Bob Sacamano]

7 hours ago, fathom said:

Cease has been just horrible.  Not trading him was such a mistake.

Agreed 100000%

[The Mighty Mite]

6 hours ago, Texsox said:

Somehow there are a couple of teams worse. Amazing. 

They have worse records but right now the Sox are the worst team in MLB.

[pcq]

Suggestion that Cease is struggling with his slider.

Thanks to South Side Sox : We watch so you don't have to. 

[Texsox]

6 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

I actually think they will fire him. 

I wouldn't have thought it possible a month ago. 

[caulfield12]

The Chris Getz White Sox refuse to not lose.

They staked a 6-0 lead with Dylan Cease on the mound, then watched the Royals bleed it dry over the final seven innings. Gregory Santos allowed Bobby Witt Jr. to tie it with a one-out double, and although he got Salvador Perez to line out to short with the winning run on third, Santos then balked in the winning run for no good reason.

The White Sox are now 0-5 since Chris Getz was named White Sox general manager, and it’s only getting funnier.
 

Jim Margalus Sox Machine

[Texsox]

Even the players knew the franchise stopped trying. 

[JoeC]

9 hours ago, harkness99 said:

if you didnt catch it...

 

lead off error

 

followed by a balk with the bases loaded....

 

quality coaching and player development

Good thing JR removed the dude in charge of player development from THAT position.

[JoeC]

2 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

They have worse records but right now the Sox are the worst team in MLB.

They can’t even suck properly.

[JoshPR]

How can anybody in their right mind think this is good? How can Grifol be safe? This team is so unprepared.... Well at least we have the ghost of 05....

[South Side Hit Men]

1 hour ago, Texsox said:

I wouldn't have thought it possible a month ago. 

Chris Getz and Pedro Grifol will be here in 2024 as long as Jerry is owner not because they have any qualifications or arguments to remain in their current positions, or even to have been hired in the first place.

Chris Getz and Pedro Grifol will return for one primary reason.

People Jerry has to pay:

(EVP & SVPs/GMs + Managers) *

• 2021 - Two Managers (RR & TLR)
• 2023 - Two Managers (TLR & PG) & Two SVPs/GMs (RH & CG)
• 2024 - Two SVPs/GMs (RH & CG) #

Note * - Includes pro-rated replacements + permanent hires. Does not include the EVP position, not because it’s not needed if filled by a competent baseball person, but not filled because Jerry is Cheap & Baseball Stupid.

Note # - Could change if RH gets a job for the 2024 season.

Edited September 6, 2023 by South Side Hit Men

[oldsox]

10 hours ago, harkness99 said:

if you didnt catch it...

 

lead off error

 

followed by a balk with the bases loaded....

 

quality coaching and player development

Yep, as soon as Anderson airmailed the throw to first, I knew game was lost.

[Texsox]

22 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Chris Getz and Pedro Grifol will be here in 2024 as long as Jerry is owner not because they have any qualifications or arguments to remain in their current positions, or even to have been hired in the first place.

Chris Getz and Pedro Grifol will return for one primary reason.

People Jerry has to pay:

(EVP & SVPs/GMs + Managers) *

• 2021 - Two Managers (RR & TLR)
• 2023 - Two Managers (TLR & PG) & Two SVPs/GMs (RH & CG)
• 2024 - Two SVPs/GMs (RH & CG) #

Note * - Includes pro-rated replacements + permanent hires. Does not include the EVP position, not because it’s not needed if filled by a competent baseball person, but not filled because Jerry is Cheap & Baseball Stupid.

Note # - Could change if RH gets a job for the 2024 season.

I'm sensing desperation for one last shot at glory. Legacy slightly over money. 

[The Beast]

8 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

Try a Brewers game?

Not when I want to introduce White Sox baseball to him. Yeah I know that’s a lifetime of misery and disappointment.

Edited September 6, 2023 by The Beast

[Dick Allen]

Every error TA makes seems to cost the Sox a game. 

[SoxAce]

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

Every error TA makes seems to cost the Sox a game. 

He went from costing his pitchers no hitters/perfect games to now costing his team games... he's improving. 

[Highland]

1 hour ago, Texsox said:

Even the players knew the franchise stopped trying. 

They have to know it, because we fans know it. We needed change and got the same old thing. On owner set in his ways and in complete denial. Meanwhile, Cease continues to implode as does Kopech. Does this team even have a rotation?

[SCCWS]

11 minutes ago, Highland said:

They have to know it, because we fans know it. We needed change and got the same old thing. On owner set in his ways and in complete denial. Meanwhile, Cease continues to implode as does Kopech. Does this team even have a rotation?

I guess I would feel that a younger player would still be excited to improve their game. But it does seem like the team is just  on a downward spiral. Getz has a lot of work to do in the off-season. 

[South Side Hit Men]

19 minutes ago, Texsox said:

I'm sensing desperation for one last shot at glory. Legacy slightly over money. 

Jerry actually caring about his on field legacy success would result in hiring the best qualified and experienced people with proven track records of success. A feasible alternative would be someone with proven success as a number 2 or 3 in a sustained exceptional front office.

Jerry continues to hire the least qualified, least experienced, least expensive people hoping he can sell September carrots at some point before he passes. Jerry is smarter than his 29 "competitors", really just needs someone to execute the paperwork on his brilliant decisions and philosophy or not paying free agents, not paying scouts, not paying analysts, not paying for player development, selling international slot money, 

This is Jerry's legacy, plus destroying the 1994 season in his epic failure to break the MLBPA.

“Everybody talks about when you build a building, the foundation comes first,” he added. “We’ve got a foundation here. We’re not going to take the guys that we have now and clean out and start over again. We’re definitely not going to do that.”

- Jerry Reinsdorf - August 31, 2023 - Another day which will live in White Sox Infamy.

 

 

[caulfield12]

18 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Jerry actually caring about his on field legacy success would result in hiring the best qualified and experienced people with proven track records of success. A feasible alternative would be someone with proven success as a number 2 or 3 in a sustained exceptional front office.

Jerry continues to hire the least qualified, least experienced, least expensive people hoping he can sell September carrots at some point before he passes. Jerry is smarter than his 29 "competitors", really just needs someone to execute the paperwork on his brilliant decisions and philosophy or not paying free agents, not paying scouts, not paying analysts, not paying for player development, selling international slot money, 

This is Jerry's legacy, plus destroying the 1994 season in his epic failure to break the MLBPA.

“Everybody talks about when you build a building, the foundation comes first,” he added. “We’ve got a foundation here. We’re not going to take the guys that we have now and clean out and start over again. We’re definitely not going to do that.”

- Jerry Reinsdorf - August 31, 2023 - Another day which will live in White Sox Infamy.

 

 

Well, we do have Luis Robert, Jr., and....uhm.  Never mind.

[JoshPR]

I swear Jerry can't be well..... Just saying...

[Stinky Stanky]

20 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Team	Blown Saves	Save Opportunities
Rockies	27	52
White Sox	27	50
Rangers	26	52
Twins	26	57

 

54% failure rate...once upon a time, elite closers use to be at 90% or at least 85%.

Obviously the team blown saves encompasses a lot of other crappy relievers...although we did have the most expensive bullpen in baseball until the trade deadline at least.  Of course, Hendriks being out hasn't helped matters.

If Hendriks is himself, he saves 20 of those blown saves and the Sox win those games.  Where does that put the team's record under Grifol?  At least you mentioned him which correctly places the blame for 20 or so losses.  Not that I think Grifol is any good, but the bullpen is making him look bad, not the other way around.

[Balta1701]

57 minutes ago, Stinky Stanky said:

If Hendriks is himself, he saves 20 of those blown saves and the Sox win those games.  Where does that put the team's record under Grifol?  At least you mentioned him which correctly places the blame for 20 or so losses.  Not that I think Grifol is any good, but the bullpen is making him look bad, not the other way around.

Well here's the problem. The White Sox's 46% save conversion rate is really quite bad, but if they saved 20 of those games, that would be EXCEPTIONAL. Right now, the top save percentage in MLB is the Red Sox, who have saved 40 of 53 for a 75% clip. If the White Sox actually saved 43 of 50 games, they would be converting saves at an 86% clip, vastly better than any other team in baseball. Last year, with Hendriks most of the year, they saved 48/71 - their bullpen outperformed a lot, and they converted at a 67% clip. You're not just talking about Hendriks there, you're talking about Hendricks being as good as he's ever been and also everyone in the bullpen being absolutely excellent.