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5 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

And Bummer is so damn bad. His ERA now for the season is seven. Another guy who has had at best a mediocre career that Hahn gave a multi year deal to. 

Once upon a time, you would NEVER keep a reliever with an ERA over 5 or 5.5 on a major league roster for an entire season.

Bummer's not even close to that level, and hasn't been for the majority of the season.

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1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said:

He is scum and I hope he gets an L tonight. If the Sox resign him this offseason, I will not follow a single pitch until Jerry and the persons responsible are no longer employees or owners of the Chicago White Sox.

Gave them the benefit of incompetence over proper due diligence and signing him anyway.

Relax, Bro. He's been our most consistently starter all season. 

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1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

He's pitched well, I'd have no issues if he and the Sox came to an agreement this season but more than likely that's not happening since he said today to the Sun-Times he'd like to play for a contender.  

It's scary to think he's the only Sox pitcher who had an MLB caliber season. Cease was OK early but really really mediocre most of the year. Sox are looking at 50-60 wins next year. 60 would be a high water mark with this roster. It's scary to realize we could be at the start of the polar opposite of a dynasty. Sox have no talent, as most all of us on here realize. No more than five players (counting pitchers and regular players) worth a flip IMO.

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1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

He's pitched well, I'd have no issues if he and the Sox came to an agreement this season but more than likely that's not happening since he said today to the Sun-Times he'd like to play for a contender.  

None of the contenders bothered to put in a wavier claim. 

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42 minutes ago, greg775 said:

It's scary to think he's the only Sox pitcher who had an MLB caliber season. Cease was OK early but really really mediocre most of the year. Sox are looking at 50-60 wins next year. 60 would be a high water mark with this roster. It's scary to realize we could be at the start of the polar opposite of a dynasty. Sox have no talent, as most all of us on here realize. No more than five players (counting pitchers and regular players) worth a flip IMO.

There's a lot of bad pitching this year. 

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

LOL.

Just realized that the A's were 46-100 and the Royals 46-101...sheesh.

Ridiculous.   When the A's were actively trying to be bad and sabotage their relationship with local fans in many ways.

 

And our so-called leadership was "forged" in the fires of KC, haha.

Wait till next year the Sox will best that.  46-100 will also be the average attendance.

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2 hours ago, wegner said:

They will not finish with the worst record, but this White Sox team has to currently be the worst team in baseball. And still Pedro will return. Inconceivable.

 

2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

He's pitched well, I'd have no issues if he and the Sox came to an agreement this season but more than likely that's not happening since he said today to the Sun-Times he'd like to play for a contender.  

Hard pass on him, Darryl Boston, Trevor Bauer, Julio Urias, Aroldis Chapman, Marcell Ozuna and he rest.

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Our guys lost the season series to the Rockies, Royals and the A’s, the White Sox are a disgrace and embarrassment to the city of Chicago and Sox fans everywhere. The fans should boycott the remainder of home games on the 2023 schedule, send JR a message that Sox fans will not tolerate his pathetic ownership any longer. This also falls on the players, I’ve never seen a Sox team that just keeps doing dumb things especially in their approach while in the batters box, they have no idea what working the count means. Last night Eloy didn’t swing at 2 meatballs down the middle of the plate then swings and misses on a pitch that he couldn’t hit with a broom, we’ve seen stuff like this all season, is Grifol and the rest of the dunces on the coaching staff working with the players or are they just not listening, don’t care or just plain stupid.

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3 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Our guys lost the season series to the Rockies, Royals and the A’s, the White Sox are a disgrace and embarrassment to the city of Chicago and Sox fans everywhere. The fans should boycott the remainder of home games on the 2023 schedule, send JR a message that Sox fans will not tolerate his pathetic ownership any longer. This also falls on the players, I’ve never seen a Sox team that just keeps doing dumb things especially in their approach while in the batters box, they have no idea what working the count means. Last night Eloy didn’t swing at 2 meatballs down the middle of the plate then swings and misses on a pitch that he couldn’t hit with a broom, we’ve seen stuff like this all season, is Grifol and the rest of the dunces on the coaching staff working with the players or are they just not listening, don’t care or just plain stupid.

But Colas was sent down and the new catcher from Houston benched.

Whole organization is a travesty. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Our guys lost the season series to the Rockies, Royals and the A’s, the White Sox are a disgrace and embarrassment to the city of Chicago and Sox fans everywhere. The fans should boycott the remainder of home games on the 2023 schedule, send JR a message that Sox fans will not tolerate his pathetic ownership any longer.

The tickets are already sold. 1/3 ish or so of the 14k announced paid attendance Tuesday were in there person.

They have / will close the upper deck M-Th this and next week and send ticket holders downstairs. You can even go down to the 300 level to check it out as nobody is checking tickets beyond perhaps a few ushers in the seating area.

From 2019 memory vs. today, the club section carpets are worn, and leather couches replaced by cheaper fabric couches, used primarily for employees as they out number the fans. Jerry is pocketing at least some of the millions he receives in maintenance, looked and felt trashy.

Some employees were sitting around complaining that they arrived for the first game but told they couldn’t clock in until 4 pm, so Jerry can save an hour of minimum wage payments. Sad.

Where people can hurt Jerry and Brooks Boyer is to not purchase 2024 tickets. Plenty of resellers dumping tickets each year. My club seats were $6 (seller probably got less) and then $7.70 for fees, which may be more or less than what TicketBastard charges. Feel far better giving money to fans and these sites than Jerry and TicketMaster.

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3 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Our guys lost the season series to the Rockies, Royals and the A’s, the White Sox are a disgrace and embarrassment to the city of Chicago and Sox fans everywhere. The fans should boycott the remainder of home games on the 2023 schedule, send JR a message that Sox fans will not tolerate his pathetic ownership any longer. This also falls on the players, I’ve never seen a Sox team that just keeps doing dumb things especially in their approach while in the batters box, they have no idea what working the count means. Last night Eloy didn’t swing at 2 meatballs down the middle of the plate then swings and misses on a pitch that he couldn’t hit with a broom, we’ve seen stuff like this all season, is Grifol and the rest of the dunces on the coaching staff working with the players or are they just not listening, don’t care or just plain stupid.

When everyone strives for their worst you get amazing results. I credit Pedro. 

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4 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Our guys lost the season series to the Rockies, Royals and the A’s, the White Sox are a disgrace and embarrassment to the city of Chicago and Sox fans everywhere. 

They won two interleague series 2-1 (Atlanta and Cincinnati) and two of fourteen American League series (Cleveland 8-5 and New York 4-2).

They have five series remaining:

  • They need a four game sweep to avoid losing to Minnesota (down 3-6).
  • Up 2-1 vs. Boston with three next week at Fenway Park. Need one win for series tie, two wins for an outright win.
  • Three interleague three game series remain. Arizona, San Diego are at home, Washington is on the road.

They will not play rained out series finale games beyond possibly Arizona (on 9/28 off day), as no other games have playoff implications.

It would be nice if they lose 101, or one more than their worst tanking team record in 2018. Jerry will have three of the top five highest loss seasons in White Sox history if the Sox lose nine or more of their remaining sixteen game.

Most losses in White Sox History:

  1. 106 - 1970 (162 games played)
  2. 102 - 1932 (152)
  3. 101 - 1948 (154)
  4. 100 - 2018 (162)
  5. 99 - 2013 (162) & 1934 (153)

Worst Winning Percentages in White Sox History:

  1. .325 1932
  2. .336 1948
  3. .346 1970
  4. .349 1934
  5. .366 1931
  6. .383 2018
  7. .384 2023 YTD
  8. .388 1929
  9. .389 2013

They need to lose their remaining 16 games to tie the 1970 team (56-106). 13 plus losses gives them the fifth spot, 11 or 12 the sixth spot.

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