Lip Man 1 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 https://soxmachine.com/2023/10/rangers-benefit-from-shots-white-sox-didnt-take/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 strangely missing "did not try to fill their RF with Nomar Mazara during their newly opened window" 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I found an error in the article, perhaps a simple oversight. But the word “Bochy” only appears once on the entire page. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Spend money, hire Bochy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Quin said: Spend money, hire Bochy What JR heard instead: "Spend money on relievers, hire LaRussa" 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I remember in 2020 thinking "oh damn, poor Phillies, they totally screwed up their rebuild. All their prospects and draft picks failed" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 What happens after three dots I must know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: What happens after three dots I must know ... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 They hired a baseball guy to run the baseball department should be on top of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 What was the Padres excuse for not making the playoffs? How about the Cubs and about 20 other teams? Hindsight is 20/20. At the end of the day, under-performance of key pitchers and positions players thought to have had more potential sunk the season....particularly key starters and relievers. Too few HR was another disappointment. No one has a crystal ball though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Rangers have an owner willing to spend on premier FA. Rangers hired a baseball person to run the baseball team. Rangers' prospects developed properly and didn't bust after injury or unearned high dollar extensions. Rangers didn't hamstring the FO with asinine short sided restrictions. Rangers reached out to a HOF manager who wasn't drinking away his twilight years while being out of the dugout for a decade. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, tray said: What was the Padres excuse for not making the playoffs? How about the Cubs and about 20 other teams? Hindsight is 20/20. At the end of the day, under-performance of key pitchers and positions players thought to have had more potential sunk the season....particularly key starters and relievers. Too few HR was another disappointment. No one has a crystal ball though. hiring a bunch of hack execs and an ancient drunk manager trumps player performence every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, Tnetennba said: Rangers have an owner willing to spend on premier FA. Rangers hired a baseball person to run the baseball team. Rangers' prospects developed properly and didn't bust after injury or unearned high dollar extensions. Rangers didn't hamstring the FO with asinine short sided restrictions. Rangers reached out to a HOF manager who wasn't drinking away his twilight years while being out of the dugout for a decade. I'm sure if Hahn got to spend half a billion dollars on 2 players, this franchise wouldn't be the shape that it's in. jerry's insistence on nickel and diming his way to the money being spent worked about as well as everyone here thought it would. I understand his line of thinking, that spreading out the investment over several players would minimize risk. What he doesn't understand is that those individual players he got for less money also have a much higher risk of not performing than the expensive players. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, chw42 said: I'm sure if Hahn got to spend half a billion dollars on 2 players, this franchise wouldn't be the shape that it's in. jerry's insistence on nickel and diming his way to the money being spent worked about as well as everyone here thought it would. I understand his line of thinking, that spreading out the investment over several players would minimize risk. What he doesn't understand is that those individual players he got for less money also have a much higher risk of not performing than the expensive players. Harper and Wheeler make this team look a lot different. So would have a Hinch hiring. But do Eloy and Moncada still essentially bust? Kopech and Gio massively regress? It's tough to say if they'd be World Series bound at any point between 2020 and now. We'd have a hell of a lot more hope though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Harper and Wheeler make this team look a lot different. So would have a Hinch hiring. But do Eloy and Moncada still essentially bust? Kopech and Gio massively regress? It's tough to say if they'd be World Series bound at any point between 2020 and now. We'd have a hell of a lot more hope though. I'm sure if they actually spent the money on Harper and Wheeler, Moncada and Eloy most likely don't get the deals they got. Hell, Moncada might not have been as terrible if he actually had to perform for his contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, tray said: What was the Padres excuse for not making the playoffs? How about the Cubs and about 20 other teams? Hindsight is 20/20. At the end of the day, under-performance of key pitchers and positions players thought to have had more potential sunk the season....particularly key starters and relievers. Too few HR was another disappointment. No one has a crystal ball though. “Thought to have had more potential” is a nice way of saying they can’t scout, develop or coach well, so they have to hope for the 99th percentile outcome because they have no backup plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Could also look at the 2020 draft. Picking productive players off of the scrap heap, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Harper and Wheeler make this team look a lot different. So would have a Hinch hiring. But do Eloy and Moncada still essentially bust? Kopech and Gio massively regress? It's tough to say if they'd be World Series bound at any point between 2020 and now. We'd have a hell of a lot more hope though. I mean, a half billion is Harper/Machado. If fictional Reinsdorf is busting open they add Wheeler as well but who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Suburban stadium. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, tray said: What was the Padres excuse for not making the playoffs? How about the Cubs and about 20 other teams? Hindsight is 20/20. At the end of the day, under-performance of key pitchers and positions players thought to have had more potential sunk the season....particularly key starters and relievers. Too few HR was another disappointment. No one has a crystal ball though. Too much obvious truth there to ignore, but it doesn't fit the party line. We do look a lot better if you compare us to the many other failures instead of the few successes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 hours ago, bmags said: strangely missing "did not try to fill their RF with Nomar Mazara during their newly opened window" Funny, but they and I thought we had a gem in the rough that was derailed by COVID. He's spent the last several years proving us wrong. In the minors now, but numbers never so bad that he was a total wreck, except with the White Sox. Someday, maybe the light will go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Meh...these articles are a dime a dozen. It's not like we didn't already know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 hours ago, tray said: What was the Padres excuse for not making the playoffs? How about the Cubs and about 20 other teams? Hindsight is 20/20. At the end of the day, under-performance of key pitchers and positions players thought to have had more potential sunk the season....particularly key starters and relievers. Too few HR was another disappointment. No one has a crystal ball though. They were predicted to be closer to losing 90 than winning 90. Padres is a mystery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Harper, Schwarber Turner.. choked at the end. Ketel Marte and the D Backs go into the WS as underdogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, tray said: Harper, Schwarber Turner.. choked at the end. Ketel Marte and the D Backs go into the WS as underdogs. Phillies have had a hell of a run though the past two years...would love to see the Sox do something like that. Anyway maybe in about 10 days, we'll know what moves Getz is going to start making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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