caulfield12 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, nrockway said: Don't you think it's fun that underdog teams made it? Did you really want to watch a repeat of the Astros and Phillies? Or to perpetually see the Dodgers and Yankees there? btw I tend to think the relevance of TV ratings is declining. I'm 30 and don't have cable, I imagine that's true of most everyone in my age group or younger. I illegally stream games because why wouldn't I? The quality is the same and it's incredibly easy to do. Now my dad does it so he doesn't have to sign up for "roku" hockey and baseball. I still have to look at the TV ads, I just don't factor in for the ratings. consider the even younger generation of sport fans who are primarily only interested in watching highlights on TikTok, buying merchandise and gambling. Seems to me that the MLB is doing a better job of capturing new fans with their updated social media policies. Additionally, franchise values continue to soar in every sport despite declining TV ratings across the board. These media rights contracts are obviously a giant source of revenue, but I'll be eyeing the NBA's new deal for the 2025-26 season. The NBA is supposedly expecting the AAV of the deal to increase from $2.7B to $6.8B despite plummeting ratings. Not to mention the proliferation of fantasy leagues and illegal and legal gambling that's helping to drive interest in younger/more statistically oriented fans. Interest in Asia and worldwide due to Ohtani. WBC with best ratings and excitement in ages despite loss of Edwin Diaz. Increasing interest in Mexico Caribbean and Latin America. Tennis and golf especially are under threat these days. NASCAR ratings have fallen dramatically. Soccer is crushing everything in its path worldwide and even the US is starting to catch up there. Women's college basketball set ratings and attendance records OTOH. It's not a singular story of MLB declining because revenues and profitability are still higher compared to NBA and LeBron is on his last legs. Edited October 26, 2023 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) Younger generations aren't as interested in sports these days. When I was a kid there was less distractions. We didn't need organized sports. Houses use to have lots or there were fields to play baseball. Schools didn't resemble penal institutions and you could go shoot hoops on a playground. Edited October 27, 2023 by kitekrazy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Both teams having lost 100 games two years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, pcq said: Both teams having lost 100 games two years ago. 2025 World Series White Sox vs Rockies Book It!!! Edited October 27, 2023 by wegner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, nrockway said: Don't you think it's fun that underdog teams made it? Did you really want to watch a repeat of the Astros and Phillies? Or to perpetually see the Dodgers and Yankees there? btw I tend to think the relevance of TV ratings is declining. I'm 30 and don't have cable, I imagine that's true of most everyone in my age group or younger. I illegally stream games because why wouldn't I? The quality is the same and it's incredibly easy to do. Now my dad does it so he doesn't have to sign up for "roku" hockey and baseball. I still have to look at the TV ads, I just don't factor in for the ratings. consider the even younger generation of sport fans who are primarily only interested in watching highlights on TikTok, buying merchandise and gambling. Seems to me that the MLB is doing a better job of capturing new fans with their updated social media policies. Additionally, franchise values continue to soar in every sport despite declining TV ratings across the board. These media rights contracts are obviously a giant source of revenue, but I'll be eyeing the NBA's new deal for the 2025-26 season. The NBA is supposedly expecting the AAV of the deal to increase from $2.7B to $6.8B despite plummeting ratings. The Yankees haven’t been to the World Series since 2009. They are almost in Soxville. The Dodgers went 29 years between appearances before 2017/2018. The Royals have the same recent experience. So do the Rangers. I think “perpetually” is a stretch. Edited October 27, 2023 by FloydBannister1983 Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 does anyone else miss when the world series was played in cold climates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, reiks12 said: does anyone else miss when the world series was played in cold climates? Don't say afternoon games with kids skipping school to stay home and watch or teachers allowing numerous classes to listen on the radio... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 hours ago, reiks12 said: does anyone else miss when the world series was played in cold climates? Eh. Philly was just last year. Would you rather NYY, Boston, Cleve, Det, Minny, or the Cubs make it regularly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: Eh. Philly was just last year. Would you rather NYY, Boston, Cleve, Det, Minny, or the Cubs make it regularly? Go Rangers!!! Semien/Dunning, AL, haven't won it before...drastically lost it, in fact. Downside...indoor baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 what was Lowe doing there? or Bochy? infield not in but throw home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Seager is so good. He hit that same pitch out against the Astros in game 7. It's not even a bad pitch, especially against a left handed hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Garcia stealing there was actually dumb since they can just walk Garver to pitch to Hedges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Adolis Garcia is insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I was just telling my wife they were pitching around him...then they throw him a sinker in the zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) Imagine having both Garcia and Arozarena and letting them go... Sandy Alcantara, Zac Gallen and Michael Wacha on the pitching side. Go Cardinals! Already has broken the David Freese all-time postseason RBI record from back in the day culminating against Tex for StL in the WS. Edited October 28, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Please give us 6 more games of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/sport/baseball-world-series-viewership-problem-spt-intl/index.html Yet another article on esports beating out baseball among young people before the first t.v. ratings are even released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) MLBN must be getting ESPN disease and have wiped the White Sox existence out of their memory. I just heard Greg Amsinget say last night's walk off home run was the 1st World Series walk off home run since Kirk Gibson. Sorry Scotty Pods. Edited October 28, 2023 by Dick Allen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 12 hours ago, chw42 said: Seager is so good. He hit that same pitch out against the Astros in game 7. It's not even a bad pitch, especially against a left handed hitter. Sure it looks great now but they're gonna be regretting the hell out of that contract in 2030! Dumbasses! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: MLBN must be getting ESPN disease and have wiped the White Sox existence out of their memory. I just heard Greg Amsinget say last night's walk off home run was the 1st World Series walk off home run since Kirk Gibson. Sorry Scotty Pods. Probably just Game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: MLBN must be getting ESPN disease and have wiped the White Sox existence out of their memory. I just heard Greg Amsinget say last night's walk off home run was the 1st World Series walk off home run since Kirk Gibson. Sorry Scotty Pods. In Game 1 of the series... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Imagine having both Garcia and Arozarena and letting them go... Sandy Alcantara, Zac Gallen and Michael Wacha on the pitching side. Go Cardinals! Already has broken the David Freese all-time postseason RBI record from back in the day culminating against Tex for StL in the WS. Wacha really doesn't belong in that group. But yeah, the Cardinals have let a lot go in the past 5 years or so that they really should not have. Weird turn for an org that usually doesn't miss on trades and prospects. Edited October 28, 2023 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, chw42 said: Wacha really doesn't belong in that group. But yeah, the Cardinals have let a lot go in the past 5 years or so that they really should not have. Weird turn for an org that usually doesn't miss on trades and prospects. Just included him for his 2.6 fWAR this season but obviously not the potential loss those other two represent. He'd plateaued after early career brilliance, playoff success then lots of injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Series tied up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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