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Fall/Winter Ball: Week 6 and beyond


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Fall League wraps up this week, and the Sox boys decided to go out with a bang:

  • Burke went 4-9 with two 2B, a HR, 3 RBI and 2 runs scored in his two games.
  • Ramos was 5-15 with 2 HR (including a walkoff slam), 1 BB, 6 RBI, and 7 runs scored, earning him the Hitter of the Week title.
  • Montgomery was 4-15 with 4BB and 5 RBI in the regular season slate, then took home MVP honors with a 2-2 (1B, HR) performance in the Fall Stars game.

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Just three games left, starting with tonight:

Game 1: GDD vs. SUR (Gameday | Live Stream)

Burke, Montgomery, and Ramos are all in the lineup.

Live stream here: https://www.mlb.com/video/live-fall-league-sur-vs-gdd-90010

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Cousin got his last outing of the Fall League out of the pen, and it was a good one to end on: 3 IP, 1 ER, 1 H, 0 BB, 4 K (3 swinging) on 38 pitches.

The one run was a solo shot, and it was his only baserunner as he retired the next 8 in order. He looked much more confident with his stuff today and was more efficient thanks to staying ahead in counts.

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On 11/7/2023 at 9:06 PM, Autumn Dreamin said:

Cousin got his last outing of the Fall League out of the pen, and it was a good one to end on: 3 IP, 1 ER, 1 H, 0 BB, 4 K (3 swinging) on 38 pitches.

The one run was a solo shot, and it was his only baserunner as he retired the next 8 in order. He looked much more confident with his stuff today and was more efficient thanks to staying ahead in counts.

I really don't get what we are trying to do with this guy.

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3 hours ago, bmags said:

I really don't get what we are trying to do with this guy.

If you mean because he pitched out of the pen, it's just a matter of the schedule. Most AFL SPs are penciled in for a start/week, but for the last few weeks there's been fewer games to go around so you squeeze guys in where you can. 

4 of his 6 appearances were starts, including the one before this, and the other two were piggybacks to accommodate for off days.

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1 minute ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

If you mean because he pitched out of the pen, it's just a matter of the schedule. Most AFL SPs are penciled in for a start/week, but for the last few weeks there's been fewer games to go around so you squeeze guys in where you can. 

4 of his 6 appearances were starts, including the one before this, and the other two were piggybacks to accommodate for off days.

More that if there was such a priority to get this guy up sooner (which someone mentioned his contract includes) I don't understand why they weren't challenging him more in placement.

But now that he's working honestly much better in short-inning stints, feels like this is all weird.

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15 minutes ago, bmags said:

More that if there was such a priority to get this guy up sooner (which someone mentioned his contract includes) I don't understand why they weren't challenging him more in placement.

But now that he's working honestly much better in short-inning stints, feels like this is all weird.

He was expected to move quickly because of his age and experience, but I don't think there was a "priority" to rush him up after his relatively long layoff from baseball. His contract incentives for making the majors run through 2025.

And the 3 inning outings are again an AFL quirk rather than reflecting some change in overall strategy or thinking he's better in short stints. He definitely could have gone longer in that last outing, but most AFL innings are mapped out in advance because you're managing the workloads of 30 guys across 5 orgs. 

GDD rarely scheduled anyone for 4 IP (and never scheduled anyone for more than that), because Red Sox pitcher #4 still needs to get his work in even if Dodgers pitcher #3 is cruising and could stay in. There are a handful of guys on other teams (like Tiedemann) who went deeper into games...but then they only get 4 starts. There just literally aren't innings available to have guys pitching deeper into games and getting the full six weeks in, regardless of capability or their full season plans.

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Johan Dominguez was on the bump in LIDOM again yesterday. Scoreless with just 2 baserunners through 3, but then gave up a single to Junior Caminero (Pipeline #6) and a HR to Franmil Reyes. 

Final line: 3.1 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 4 K, 1 BB.

Luis Patiño, who got into a handful of games with the Sox last season but may or may not stay on the roster with Rule 5 decisions coming, also pitched 2IP scoreless and got the W.

Obviously, it's much easier to pitch well when you're backed up by offensive and defensive brilliance from a veteran two way superstar...

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On 11/13/2023 at 2:01 PM, Autumn Dreamin said:

Johan Dominguez was on the bump in LIDOM again yesterday. Scoreless with just 2 baserunners through 3, but then gave up a single to Junior Caminero (Pipeline #6) and a HR to Franmil Reyes. 

Final line: 3.1 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 4 K, 1 BB.

Luis Patiño, who got into a handful of games with the Sox last season but may or may not stay on the roster with Rule 5 decisions coming, also pitched 2IP scoreless and got the W.

Obviously, it's much easier to pitch well when you're backed up by offensive and defensive brilliance from a veteran two way superstar...

Did Leury play anywhere last season? Mexico? Korea? What a nice life if not.

Edit: half serious here, but bring him back for a bench role since we are paying him anyway lol

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On 11/16/2023 at 2:29 PM, Autumn Dreamin said:

Carlos Perez is slashing .338/.413/.463 through 19 games with Bravos de Margarita in Venezuela Winter League with 9 BB, 5 XBH (2HR), 23 RBI, and just 3K.

I do think there's a decent approach/bat in there.

? my sweet son

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Luis Patiño, current 40-man inhabitant, has yet to give up a run through 9 IP in LIDOM. Today was his second consecutive 3IP/0ER outing.

He just turned 24 last month and is a former top prospect...wouldn't hate hanging onto him for a longer look.

Carlos Perez still has more walks (11) than strikeouts (8) in winter ball through 117 ABs (.308/.384/.410).

But as is often the case for MLB/MiLB catchers in winter leagues, he's not getting much time behind the plate (just 4 games at C out of 29 total).

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Carlos Perez today in winter ball: 2-4 with 2 HR, 6 RBI, and a BB.

Still more walks than Ks, OPS hovering around .800 after slowing down for a bit.

He seems to slug more when starting at C maybe? 3 HR in the last 10 days or so, all when starting at C.

He also presumably called a decent game today, as his pitchers gave up 0 runs on 1 walk and 6 hits (all singles).

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