steveno89 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 minute ago, T R U said: It sucks but if Cease is traded how do you not trade Robert? Are we just supposed to watch this guy be bored out of his mind surrounded by absolute trash for 2-3 years? Whats the point. I can see him getting disinterested real fast. No pressing reason to move Robert right now short of a ludicrous offer. With four more seasons of control it may be hard to get fair value for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 minute ago, T R U said: It sucks but if Cease is traded how do you not trade Robert? Are we just supposed to watch this guy be bored out of his mind surrounded by absolute trash for 2-3 years? Whats the point. I can see him getting disinterested real fast. I get it, but I just don't think anyone would pay the value it would take at this point. Maybe in another year-year and a half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey21 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 minute ago, steveno89 said: No. Sox will want a package of younger players/prospects I mean that’s ideal in a perfect world but it’s Jerry Reinsdorf that said he wants to compete ASAP and Getz said they want higher OBP guys Randy isn’t a FA until 2027 like Robert, but has 3 years of ARB left. 29 in February . I doubt the Rays would do it because he’s cheap but idk I’d love watching Arozarena and Luis Robert for the next couple years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, T R U said: It sucks but if Cease is traded how do you not trade Robert? Are we just supposed to watch this guy be bored out of his mind surrounded by absolute trash for 2-3 years? Whats the point. I can see him getting disinterested real fast. Cuz his value at year 4, probably isn't significantly higher than at year 2. It's hard to get true value for a guy (potential superstar) with 4 years left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: We are cruising next week also on the Sky Princess, what ship are you on? Carnival Elation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I get it, but I just don't think anyone would pay the value it would take at this point. Maybe in another year-year and a half. Yep. Robert won't get moved this year but next offseason is a real possibility. Last year was the start of another dark age decade for White Sox baseball. This organization will not sniff the playoffs again for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, T R U said: It sucks but if Cease is traded how do you not trade Robert? Are we just supposed to watch this guy be bored out of his mind surrounded by absolute trash for 2-3 years? Whats the point. I can see him getting disinterested real fast. I don't think any team that can afford Robert's price would want to pay that price 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Carnival Elation. Have a nice cruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Quin said: I don't think any team that can afford Robert's price would want to pay that price This. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) @Y2Jimmy0 Are they deep in talks with the O's? I'd be over the moon if they got Kjerstad and Hall in the package. Edited November 29, 2023 by baseball_gal_aly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Quin said: I don't think any team that can afford Robert's price would want to pay that price The Dodgers could make a package work if the offer was Robert + bad contracts (Yoan + Benintendi). They can always DFA Benintendi if they have no use for him. Yankees might also be willing with their current holes. SD or the Mets could have completed this last year, but are retrenching this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: The Dodgers could make a package work if the offer was Robert + bad contracts (Yoan + Benintendi). They can always DFA Benintendi if they have no use for him. Yankees might also be willing with their current holes. SD or the Mets could have completed this last year, but are retrenching this year. Packaging bad deals with Robert while already slashing payroll would actually be the death knell for the franchise. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Would be dumb to have not worked the best package possible for both Cease and Bummer to the Braves vs making two separate trades instead. I hope it's the Dodgers or Orioles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: Would be dumb to have not worked the best package possible for both Cease and Bummer to the Braves vs making two separate trades instead. I hope it's the Dodgers or Orioles. That’s cuz the Braves can’t afford Cease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I just feel like the Rangers are kinda like the AL wild men. They’ve been crazy spending and making moves the past two years. They’re my dark horse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCalChiSox Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, baseball_gal_aly said: @Y2Jimmy0 Are they deep in talks with the O's? I'd be over the moon if they got Kjerstad and Hall in the package. @Chicago White Sox will like this....Hjerstad is the left handed savage he wanted from BAL. I feel Jimmy wouldn't throw that out there unless he heard something was going on. They still need to add Ortiz to the equation and maybe Hall (now that he rebounded later in the season) or Povich, but I have my doubts Elias will go for the third piece and he may not even go for Ortiz as the 2nd piece, but BAL is the best match by far. We need positional talent. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: Damn.....back to back tweets on BAL! I highly doubt they would send all three of those guys our way but that would perhaps be the "massive haul" Rosenthal, NBB were talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Rey21 said: Maybe I’m reaching but could a Dylan Cease for Randy Arozarena deal work?? Why? What does this accomplish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Quin said: Packaging bad deals with Robert while already slashing payroll would actually be the death knell for the franchise. It would be this generation’s version of the White Flag trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCalChiSox said: @Chicago White Sox will like this....Hjerstad is the left handed savage he wanted from BAL. I feel Jimmy wouldn't throw that out there unless he heard something was going on. They still need to add Ortiz to the equation and maybe Hall (now that he rebounded later in the season) or Povich, but I have my doubts Elias will go for the third piece and he may not even go for Ortiz as the 2nd piece, but BAL is the best match by far. We need positional talent. This part caught my attention too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Severino just went to the Mets for 1/$13M coming of a much worse season than Cease, for anyone curious about the price of pitching this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo_Santiago81 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 With the Orioles, the conversation has to start with Mayo and Basallo, would love Holliday but I am sure Baltimore ain't moving him, but if they do not start with Basallo and Mayo, move on!0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Severino just went to the Mets for 1/$13M coming of a much worse season than Cease, for anyone curious about the price of pitching this winter. I'm surprised the lower end of the market is moving. Usually don't they wait until the higher end guys sign so there is a more favorable supply/demand situation. I think Giolito will command more than 15m if that's the case and so will Flaherty. I think the idea that we could get both on 1 yr deals for like 25m combined is unlikely in this market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Quin said: Packaging bad deals with Robert while already slashing payroll would actually be the death knell for the franchise. Jerry can live with that scenario. It’s someone else’s problem unless he lived into the 2040s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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