Bob Sacamano Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Imanaga was also a rumored target for Yanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 These days most teams prefer to give up money rather than prospects, which tells you just how underpaid young players are in baseball. It's possible Sox have to move Cease at the deadline when there are no free agents to buy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Timmy U said: These days most teams prefer to give up money rather than prospects, which tells you just how underpaid young players are in baseball. It's possible Sox have to move Cease at the deadline when there are no free agents to buy. It’s possible but it’s a big risk…but one that could pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Some rumors that Boston might get Snell I could definitely see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: It’s possible but it’s a big risk…but one that could pay off. I don’t see Getz taking on the risk of injury to Cease for the first half of 2024. Hahn had three big trade chips for his rebuild in Eaton, Sale, and Quintana. Getz only has two obvious ones in Cease and Robert right now. Edited December 30, 2023 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I don’t see Getz taking on the risk of injury to Cease for the first half of 2024. Hahn had three big trade chips for his rebuild in Eaton, Sale, and Quintana. Getz only has two obvious ones in Cease and Robert right now. Too many people freaking out about Cease not getting traded, even though the plan was always to wait until Snell and Montgomery signed elsewhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, Timmy U said: These days most teams prefer to give up money rather than prospects, which tells you just how underpaid young players are in baseball. It's possible Sox have to move Cease at the deadline when there are no free agents to buy. At the deadline this season it was “Well, they didn’t meet our ask. Try again in the offseason when there are more buyers.”. Now it’s “Well, there are too many free agents. We should try again at the deadline.”. Can’t wait for August when we move the goalposts again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, fathom said: Some rumors that Boston might get Snell Him landing with the Angels would be amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Him landing with the Angels would be amazing That’s your absolute best case scenario for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Him landing with the Angels would be amazing Yeah I read somewhere one of the two big Boras pitchers was close to a deal...Snell to LAA would be great for Cease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I can’t see any path to us becoming a title contending team in the foreseeable future. We’re off in basically every area (current team, farm system, scouting, analytics, GM, owner resources, etc). We’re looking at a decade of .450-.500 ball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 minute ago, NCsoxfan said: I can’t see any path to us becoming a title contending team in the foreseeable future. We’re off in basically every area (current team, farm system, scouting, analytics, GM, owner resources, etc). We’re looking at a decade of .450-.500 ball Assuming ownership stays the same what you say is possible. New ownership? Anything can happen. And JR is about to turn 88 in February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Assuming ownership stays the same what you say is possible. New ownership? Anything can happen. And JR is about to turn 88 in February. The good die young, but pricks live forever-Lewis Black 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: I can’t see any path to us becoming a title contending team in the foreseeable future. We’re off in basically every area (current team, farm system, scouting, analytics, GM, owner resources, etc). We’re looking at a decade of .450-.500 ball Mayo & Cowser for Cease/Santos puts the lineup at some form of: Cowser RF Robert CF Mayo 3B Eloy DH Montgomery SS Vaughn 1B Moncada 2B Catcher 75M Benny 9hole I’m probably watching s%*# out of that team next year. That might actually bring me back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Mayo & Cowser for Cease/Santos puts the lineup at some form of: Cowser RF Robert CF Mayo 3B Eloy DH Montgomery SS Vaughn 1B Moncada 2B Catcher 75M Benny 9hole I’m probably watching s%*# out of that team next year. That might actually bring me back There's zero chance they will trade both Mayo and Cowser for Cease and Santos. Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Timmy U said: These days most teams prefer to give up money rather than prospects, which tells you just how underpaid young players are in baseball. It's possible Sox have to move Cease at the deadline when there are no free agents to buy. This this this. The days of getting a deal even as good as Sale or Eaton in terms of at the moment prospect capital are over. Edited December 30, 2023 by baseball_gal_aly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 4 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I agree with you on PCA being a target Getz could be interested in. But explain to us why the Sox, who already dumped Madrigal once, would want him back again? Especially when they already have damn near his clone in Nicky Lopez, who shouldn’t be a starting 2B for any major league team either? Madrigal was traded...not dumped. A team like our WS have the funds for maybe 6 or 7 high-priced so-called stars (12-25 million) and the rest need to be useful players (1-10 million) types. Both Lopez and Madrigal play multiple positions reasonably well. Both can run a little and have OBP in the mid .320's, which would be among the leaders on the white sox. I love that Madrigal has many extended at-bats which help ware down the opposing team's starter IMO. I am aware that I come from the go-go era of white sox baseball and that undoubtedly colors my viewpoint that little slap hitters can be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Mayo & Cowser for Cease/Santos puts the lineup at some form of: Cowser RF Robert CF Mayo 3B Eloy DH Montgomery SS Vaughn 1B Moncada 2B Catcher 75M Benny 9hole I’m probably watching s%*# out of that team next year. That might actually bring me back Mayo is going no where. Mayo and Cowser in the same deal is a step above a pipe dream. You aren’t getting Mayo. Mayo was an absolute steal when we drafted him and he has done morning but tear up the minors at really young ages. He also likely can stay at third defensively but the O’s have the left side pretty covered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Non Sox fans don’t understand how important it is for us to fleece someone in a Cease trade. For teams like us who don’t develop talent, this is our only path to any sort of success. And we will need to set the market high because we will want top dollar for all these guys we’re about to get for Cease when we burn it all to the ground in a few seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, poppysox said: Madrigal was traded...not dumped. A team like our WS have the funds for maybe 6 or 7 high-priced so-called stars (12-25 million) and the rest need to be useful players (1-10 million) types. Both Lopez and Madrigal play multiple positions reasonably well. Both can run a little and have OBP in the mid .320's, which would be among the leaders on the white sox. I love that Madrigal has many extended at-bats which help ware down the opposing team's starter IMO. I am aware that I come from the go-go era of white sox baseball and that undoubtedly colors my viewpoint that little slap hitters can be useful. I don’t think any team starting both Madrigal (3B) and Lopez (2B) would be a team in competition, with the importance of offense in the modern game. Losing that much power at a power position like 3B would be rough. The team would have to be stacked at many other positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, NCsoxfan said: I can’t see any path to us becoming a title contending team in the foreseeable future. We’re off in basically every area (current team, farm system, scouting, analytics, GM, owner resources, etc). We’re looking at a decade of .450-.500 ball There is literally zero history of Jerry Reinsdorf ever doing that. 2005 wasn’t built as a title contending team. Nice collection of players and literally everything went right. Since 2005? They have 3 playoff wins, 2 division titles, 1 wild card appearance and 0 playoff series wins. All of this is moving deck chairs until he dies. That statement leads directly to ending the conversation, so it’s not very enjoyable to have and if everyone held that position this message board would be a ghost town…but it’s the simple reality. Even moreso when you have ownership groups like the Dodgers, Mets, Braves, Rangers etc….Jerry plays by his rules, and we suffer as a result. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Balta1701 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Jerksticks said: Mayo & Cowser for Cease/Santos puts the lineup at some form of: Cowser RF Robert CF Mayo 3B Eloy DH Montgomery SS Vaughn 1B Moncada 2B Catcher 75M Benny 9hole I’m probably watching s%*# out of that team next year. That might actually bring me back Is there any new reason to think that Santos can pass a physical? Some report about him actually throwing somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 minute ago, baseball_gal_aly said: Posting a self serving tweet doesn't make it true. A for effort tho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 Just now, Balta1701 said: Is there any new reason to think that Santos can pass a physical? Some report about him actually throwing somewhere? He just started a throwing program and the goal is for him to be fully healthy by the start of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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