hi8is Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: No doubt..any of these moves are for improving your chances and improving your margin for error. But it’s all about whose hot, whose healthy and who gets the most luck. I like grapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, Baron said: Maybe I'm the only one but I have no problem with what Getz is doing. First there's definitely an epidemic of non aggressive GMs in major league baseball. Even the aggressive ones *cough cough* Atlanta are making very minimally impactful moves. Maybe they can't meet the sales price for Cease. So what? Who's fault is that? We have the market cornered with the best asset available with 2 years in his contract. If these teams want to trade for Chris Sale with his arm about to fall off all the power to them. They'll have to answer to their owners why they got bounced out of the playoffs in the first round. Keep the asking price high because the prices for non impactful pitchers is high too. Let them make the mistakes and wait for the desperation to set it. May take it to the trade deadline. Yep...Gio getting almost 20 million for 2 years say all you need to know about Cease and his value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Does anyone know if Cowser has a right fielder's arm. I know his range is good since he is primarily a Center Fielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Demon Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, poppysox said: Does anyone know if Cowser has a right fielder's arm. I know his range is good since he is primarily a Center Fielder. His arm is graded at 55 according to MLB.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babkins Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, poppysox said: Does anyone know if Cowser has a right fielder's arm. I know his range is good since he is primarily a Center Fielder. Statcast has him at a tick under 92nd percentile among outfielders who made at least 50 throws. He touched 99 m.p.h. on his hardest throw last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Sports Guy said: Is it ridiculous for us to think we can get Cease for Tyler Wells, Norby and Max Wagner? Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Sports Guy said: Is it ridiculous for us to think we can get Cease for Tyler Wells, Norby and Max Wagner? Lol yes 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Getz is going to screw this up. Every team is going to find a starter and we will be left with Cease on. 95+ loss team. 4 hours ago, Timmy U said: I think he has a shot to be Boston's starting 2b. At the very least, they'll move him between IF and OF to replace k*** Hernandez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) There’s no way Getz wants a 29 year old starter who is already arbitration eligible, or a headlining 2B prospect with a questionable glove, as the top return in a Cease trade. Edited December 31, 2023 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, Johno said: Getz is going to screw this up. Every team is going to find a starter and we will be left with Cease on. 95+ loss team. 100 loses easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, WestEddy said: ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, WestEddy said: This is great to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZOriole Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Cowser, Ortiz, and Povich seems like the ceiling on a trade with the Orioles but it seems like WS fans want more. Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Him and Teel would be real nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: There’s no way Getz wants a 29 year old starter who is already arbitration eligible, or a headlining 2B prospect with a questionable glove, as the top return in a Cease trade. I’m not disagreeing with you, but as a factual matter, Wells is not arbitration eligible. He’s been a very good pitcher for the O’s but seems to develop arm fatigue in the second half every year. That’s why he can’t really be a headliner at this point, but he could be a steal as an additional piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, SkokieSox said: Him and Teel would be real nice I think I’d rather have Anthony and Teel over Cowser/kjerstad and Ortiz. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Frobby said: I’m not disagreeing with you, but as a factual matter, Wells is not arbitration eligible. He’s been a very good pitcher for the O’s but seems to develop arm fatigue in the second half every year. That’s why he can’t really be a headliner at this point, but he could be a steal as an additional piece. Why would the White Sox possibly want Wells? Just like the Bummer trade...the Orioles will push back guys on the bottom 10 of the big league roster they don't want to pay full freight. Would rather have Santander or Mullins to flip and/or solidify outfield defense compared to Sheets...if they have already given upon on Colas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I think I’d rather have Anthony and Teel over Cowser/kjerstad and Ortiz. I’d rather have Tyler Wells over both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I think I’d rather have Anthony and Teel over Cowser/kjerstad and Ortiz. And Kjerstad has to hit without any other dynamic tools and limited positional flexibility... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: I’d rather have Tyler Wells over both. https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/orioles-mlb/orioles-tyler-wells-stress-balance-4UMTOASB65HQTN6YZ7A27LJMYI/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Mayer and Anthony. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: I’d rather have Tyler Wells over both. You want a 29 year old arbitration eligible starter with 4 years of control, for THIS current Sox team? Thankfully, you will never be a GM, my friend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Not that anyone cares that a single fan is done with the White Sox but I am. A kid who sat in the upper deck in old comiskey wondering if Ivan Calderon could hit one up there. A kid who got to leave grade school early to see the first game at new comiskey! Who cherished his big hurt autographed card/ball he got at Sox fest. A kid who got to play on the field with other little leaguers! Who was bummed when the blue jays knocked them out of the playoffs. Who sat in the RF bleachers during the all star when Loaiza started. A college student who couldn’t watch the games but frustratingly followed them get beat by Minnesota late in the year in the early 2000s. Young adult who cherished my favorite team of all time, the 05 white Sox win the WS! An adult who emailed Rick Hahn before the “mired in mediocrity” press conference saying they were mired in mediocrity (coincidence?). An adult who has followed along the last decade but has lost interest due to Jerry’s incompetence and apathy. Again nobody cares when a single fan loses interest for good, but sayonara! You all are fun fans who are devoted and knowledgeable. I just can’t do it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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