WhiteSox2023 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 38 minutes ago, ptatc said: Again, that was early on in the negotiations. I wouldn't expect anyone to pay that kind of premium either. That was the starting point, not the end. Exactly. Getz may not get what he initially asked for when he was shooting for the moon, but waiting until all of the rest of the good pitchers come off the board seems to indicate he is waiting for a team to blink and perhaps not give into his initial ask, but his secondary ask. Edited January 7 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolle Tide Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, SkokieSox said: What I think is obvious is there are a lot of assumptions being built around a preferred narrative. Goes both ways right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, Sports Guy said: So to be clear, your belief is that Getz will get 100% of what he his initial demands are? My belief is he gets what he wants, or we roll with Cease OD. I’m perfectly fine with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, Sports Guy said: So to be clear, your belief is that Getz will get 100% of what he his initial demands are? Sure Holliday plus lol. No reasonable person would conceivably believe that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, Rolle Tide said: Goes both ways right? Only one side is concluding what the holder of the asset needs to do. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, SkokieSox said: My belief is he gets what he wants, or we roll with Cease OD. I’m perfectly fine with that. I disagree. I don’t think Getz is going to get his initial ask (which was likely massive), and I also don’t think he wants to play with fire and watch Cease potentially get injured before the trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, SkokieSox said: My belief is he gets what he wants, or we roll with Cease OD. I’m perfectly fine with that. He will 100% get a deal he is happy with. I think we all agree with that. But he will have to come down off of his current demands for it to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Are the O's true believers doing the same exact thing on Miami Cleveland and Milwaukee boards? Trying to convince Milwaukee they desperately need Ortiz? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 1 minute ago, SkokieSox said: Only one side is concluding what the holder of the asset needs to do. So then you aren’t willing to say the buyer(s) need to come up in price? Edited January 7 by Sports Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, WhiteSox2023 said: I disagree. I don’t think Getz is going to get his initial ask (which was likely massive), and I also don’t think he wants to play with fire and watch Cease potentially get injured before the trade deadline. Initial ask and what he wants aren’t likely the same package Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: He will 100% get a deal he is happy with. I think we all agree with that. But he will have to come down off of his current demands for it to happen. That finally made sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: He will 100% get a deal he is happy with. I think we all agree with that. But he will have to come down off of his current demands for it to happen. I don’t buy the Reds reporter’s rumor at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolle Tide Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, SkokieSox said: Only one side is concluding what the holder of the asset needs to do. C’mon man! Quit hating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Sure Holliday plus lol. No reasonable person would conceivably believe that. But isn’t that point? Isn’t this what has been said over and over? That Getz has demands that are too high and won’t be met? People have basically said that’s absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, SkokieSox said: Initial ask and what he wants aren’t likely the same package True, good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: So then you aren’t willing to say the buyer(s) need to come up in price? Of course, if they want to make a deal. But I’m not suggesting they have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, fathom said: I don’t buy the Reds reporter’s rumor at all. Agreed, or that Getz ever expected to get Holliday at last year’s trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolle Tide Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I don’t buy the Reds reporter’s rumor at all. Sure …. It doesn’t fit the narrative here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, WhiteSox2023 said: Agreed, or that Getz ever expected to get Holliday at last year’s trade deadline. It was Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Haven't they already noticed we have Nicky Lopez who will accomplish exactly the same thing as Lopez at 2B? Or DeJong at SS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: But isn’t that point? Isn’t this what has been said over and over? That Getz has demands that are too high and won’t be met? People have basically said that’s absurd. And the other teams are too low and won’t be met. Circular argument 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Agreed, or that Getz ever expected to get Holliday at last year’s trade deadline. Or KW Hahn...with the initial ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: He will 100% get a deal he is happy with. I think we all agree with that. But he will have to come down off of his current demands for it to happen. Definitely. But wouldn’t it make sense that Getz is simply waiting for the other starting pitchers that may be as good as Cease to come off the market, like Snell and Montgomery? Supply and demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: It was Hahn. Oops sorry. My mistake. I still doubt Hahn made that ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Definitely. But wouldn’t it make sense that Getz is simply waiting for the other starting pitchers that may be as good as Cease to come off the market, like Snell and Montgomery? Supply and demand. He can wait…never said he shouldn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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