ptatc Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: Actually, it’s not close to semantics. It is exactly that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: Actually, it’s not close to semantics. A closer isn’t a high leverage reliever? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 13 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: He’s been a focus of mine since the beginning the offseason. I can’t imagine he’s much more than a salary dump for the WS right now but I may be off on that. Not sure how the org feels about him. Why would we want to dump his salary when he makes $3M? And our staff is filled with a bunch of garbage and question marks that lack the ceiling Kopech possesses. Unless he’s a complete clubhouse cancer, they will want to give Bannister a shot to unlock his potential. The stuff is still really good even if it’s regressed some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: A closer isn’t a high leverage reliever? A closer is someone that is designated for the 9th inning(sometimes asked to get an out or 2 in the 8th inning but that’s few and far between). That may or may not be a high leverage situation. Many saves are 3 run or more leads. Thats not a higH leverage situation. I don’t want my best reliever to be the closer. I want my best reliever(s) to pitch in all innings because a “save” doesn’t always occur in the 9th inning. Edited January 15 by Sports Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why would we want to dump his salary when he makes $3M? And our staff is filled with a bunch of garbage and question marks that lack the ceiling Kopech possesses. Unless he’s a complete clubhouse cancer, they will want to give Bannister a shot to unlock his potential. The stuff is still really good even if it’s regressed some. For some reason I thought I saw he was going to be making 6 million or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Sports Guy said: A closer is someone that is designated for the 9th inning(sometimes asked to get an out or 2 in the 8th inning but that’s few and far between). That may or may not be a high leverage situation. Many saves are 3 run or more leads. Thats not a higH leverage situation. I don’t want my best reliever to be the closer. I want my best reliever(s) to pitch in all innings because a “save” doesn’t always occur in the 9th inning. No. It’s not a save situation if it’s over 3 runs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: No. It’s not a save situation if it’s over 3 runs. lol.my god, do you really not know the rules of the sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: A closer is someone that is designated for the 9th inning(sometimes asked to get an out or 2 in the 8th inning but that’s few and far between). That may or may not be a high leverage situation. Many saves are 3 run or more leads. Thats not a higH leverage situation. I don’t want my best reliever to be the closer. I want my best reliever(s) to pitch in all innings because a “save” doesn’t always occur in the 9th inning. That is a very outdated definition of closer. In the modern MLB, the closer is the pitcher who comes in when the most important outs are needed. Edited January 15 by ptatc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: lol.my god, do you really not know the rules of the sport? Do you? If you come in the inning before it is but coming into a clean 9th inning up over 3 runs I thought you were referring to. Straight up moronic to say a guy who pitches the 9th isn’t a high leverage pitcher and can’t pitch any other high leverage spot. Just an L take yet again from O’s Hangout. Edited January 15 by Bob Sacamano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 My god when it's reported that the O's are out on Cease it'll be a glorious day. 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Baron said: My god when it's reported that the O's are out on Cease it'll be a glorious day. But we will miss the entertainment. Or will we? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, ptatc said: But we will miss the entertainment. Or will we? ? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, Baron said: My god when it's reported that the O's are out on Cease it'll be a glorious day. No clue why they are still posting here. We’ve heard and discussed their 2 cents. Time to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, ptatc said: But we will miss the entertainment. Or will we? ? Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: No clue why they are still posting here. We’ve heard and discussed their 2 cents. Time to go. I mean I don't mind if they have something new to add. I was actually just going to check and see if there was anything new I missed reporting wise. But I looked at the last few pages and I didn't. You can't have those prospects! What the hell are you thinking! Why can't you read! Why don't you know baseball! Yep. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Baron said: I mean I don't mind if they have something new to add. I was actually just going to check and see if there was anything new I missed reporting wise. But I looked at the last few pages and I didn't. You can't have those prospects! What the hell are you thinking! Why can't you read! Why don't you know baseball! Yep. They haven't added anything new in weeks lol maybe when they first started posting but now? Ehhhhh Very weird to spend so much time on a forum for a team you aren't even a fan of. I liked the O's last year but their fans who have posted here make me want them to finish 3rd or worse (going to be hard to finish worse than Jays and BoSox I will admit). Edited January 15 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 9 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: lol.my god, do you really not know the rules of the sport? I think you’re the one that needs to look up the prerequisites for how one earns a save… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Trying to catch this mouse in my kitchen has been vastly more entertaining than reading the same word salad that fills this thread lately. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: They haven't added anything new in weeks lol maybe when they first started posting but now? Ehhhhh Exactly. I just want us to sign an outfielder so we can shift to that discussion. I need my defensive stats discussion infusion before spring training starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Trying to catch this mouse in my kitchen has been vastly more entertaining than reading the same word salad that fills this thread lately. I'm not a fan of salad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Jackson Holliday for Dylan Cease straight up. Might as well dump a barrel of crude oil onto the dumpster fire 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 23 minutes ago, Sports Guy said: A closer is someone that is designated for the 9th inning(sometimes asked to get an out or 2 in the 8th inning but that’s few and far between). That may or may not be a high leverage situation. Many saves are 3 run or more leads. Thats not a higH leverage situation. I don’t want my best reliever to be the closer. I want my best reliever(s) to pitch in all innings because a “save” doesn’t always occur in the 9th inning. You’re going to love seeing Kimbrel in the 8th inning then 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 15 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Do you? If you come in the inning before it is but coming into a clean 9th inning up over 3 runs I thought you were referring to. Straight up moronic to say a guy who pitches the 9th isn’t a high leverage pitcher and can’t pitch any other high leverage spot. Just an L take yet again from O’s Hangout. A save is also when a pitcher comes into the game and the on deck hitter represents the tying or go ahead run. It doesn’t have to be a 3 run lead for that to be the case. It can be a 4 run lead. If I had said that, you would be right it would be moronic. But since I didn’t say that, the only moron is yourself for a) not knowing all the rules and b) not comprehending and reading things my 6 y/o can understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 There it is. Another why can't you read post. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 12 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I think you’re the one that needs to look up the prerequisites for how one earns a save… https://www.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/save# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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