Timmy U Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I actually think Holliday will be their 2b by Memorial Day, but I guess Wesburg can play 3b. Henderson being able to play ss makes them a better team long-term. He'd be GG at 3b, but I bet he pushes Holliday, not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey21 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 20 minutes ago, fathom said: I would say Westburg is totally off limits now Which IMO is why Getz won’t make a deal with the O’s now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 8 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: 0% chance Orioles circle back after getting Burnes. They already dealt the prospects they wanted to deal. They dealt the prospects they wanted to deal....BEFORE they knew the severity of the injuries to Braddish and Means. Now they are short in the rotation. Of course the new ownership SHOULD just go out and grab Montgomery or Snell instead of trading from their top prospects, but until we see them willing to drop a big bag like that I will assume the Orioles should be far more motivated to include one of those top guys than they were a week ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: They dealt the prospects they wanted to deal....BEFORE they knew the severity of the injuries to Braddish and Means. Now they are short in the rotation. Of course the new ownership SHOULD just go out and grab Montgomery or Snell instead of trading from their top prospects, but until we see them willing to drop a big bag like that I will assume the Orioles should be far more motivated to include one of those top guys than they were a week ago. They knew of the elbow issues for Cy Bradish for a month, it sounds like Edited February 16 by fathom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 37 minutes ago, fathom said: I would say Westburg is totally off limits now Then who would they trade? It seems like everyone of significance is “off limits” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Then who would they trade? It seems like everyone of significance is “off limits” I don’t think they make a trade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 23 hours ago, caulfield12 said: You have Urias for third with Henderson and Holliday up the middle. Actually the guy Getz should target since they will hold on tight to Mayo is Bradfield, along with Cowser OR Kjerstad. Not sure they even need a third piece like a Norby who might give you a 1.5 fWAR if everything goes right. I sure wouldn't mind Bradfield or Beavers. We going to find out very soon how good Cowser and Kjerstad are going to be. If they arent that good this season Kjerstad's rating will drop because he'll be 26 at the start of next season. With so much on the line they may try Kjerstad ahead of Cowser. I like the younger Bradfield and Beavers, one isa GG type CF with speed to burn and the the other generally characterized as a 5 tool guy and a great OBP. Edited February 16 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 33 minutes ago, fathom said: They knew of the elbow issues for Cy Bradish for a month, it sounds like They will simply argue Irvin Wells and Baumann can get them through the first half of the season...then the readjustments at the deadline when new ownership will provide them the ability to take on expiring salaries rather than trading core prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 8 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Oh yeah, July they'll come calling assuming they need pitching help (Which I'd bet heavily they will need it) Could be earlier. Bradish and Means could turn into more serious problems . If Cease has a strong April and May and pitching injuries start hurting 3 or 4 contenders then watch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 8 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: ..........................I disagree. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 21 hours ago, hogan873 said: God, Boob is insufferable. Well that's what Getz said. Doesn't mean it's the truth. If I were GM I would lie my ass off if someone asked me if the O's called. Edited February 16 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 7 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said: Good to hear Jimmy LOL dudes it just his opinion. Lots of things are starting to go wrong with their SP . If they don't want to get too far behind the 8 ball ,a durable starter having a really good 1st 2 months, will start to look a lot better to a lot of teams.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 5 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: LOL dudes it just his opinion. Lots of things are starting to go wrong with their SP . If they don't want to get too far behind the 8 ball ,a durable starter having a really good 1st 2 months, will start to look a lot better to a lot of teams.. Especially the relatively cheap salary aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 6 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Orioles circled back on Cease the other day apparently. No idea if it’ll be them but I’ve talked to people who still think he moves. 4 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Levine is on 670 right now. It sounds like VERY informed speculation after being at White Sox camp today. He said that talks with Baltimore are expected. Thanks for sharing this. I missed all of this news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Thanks for sharing this. I missed all of this news. Keep in mind Levine isn't right very often. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, Lip Man 1 said: Keep in mind Levine isn't right very often. Sure, but I don’t need to listen to Levine for this to make sense. The Orioles were hit hard with injuries to their rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Sure, but I don’t need to listen to Levine for this to make sense. The Orioles were hit hard with injuries to their rotation. Trevor Bauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Trevor Bauer Clevinger as well. Beggars can’t be choosers, and both guys would probably sign relatively cheap.ly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 They're not going to risk their rebuild exposing those two guys to a young clubhouse...when they now can spend their way through or around roster problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 6 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Especially the relatively cheap salary aspect. That's a given. The question with Cease is his last season and why teams don't want to give up big time prospects for just durability and a good contract. They want him to be a #1 or a really good #2. No matter how you slice it that 4.58 ERA is still too many runs . You have get back closer to his 2022 season. It's crucial he pitch better, more innings and have better command. Edited February 16 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 6 hours ago, caulfield12 said: They're not going to risk their rebuild exposing those two guys to a young clubhouse...when they now can spend their way through or around roster problems. Bauer would league minimum so if he’s a problem, you just cut him. Not really a huge gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Bauer would league minimum so if he’s a problem, you just cut him. Not really a huge gamble. Then another team would have offered Clevinger first…but I”m guessing he is still expecting over $12 million at a minimum after last season. With Bauer, not the financial but the massive PR hit and potential (would say more than likely) female fan boycotts. It’s an act of desperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I was reading Heymans article from yesterday. He "confirmed" that the package of prospects the O's just traded was what they offered to Getz for Cease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, Baron said: I was reading Heymans article from yesterday. He "confirmed" that the package of prospects the O's just traded was what they offered to Getz for Cease. Glad Getz held firm and didn't take it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 11 minutes ago, Baron said: I was reading Heymans article from yesterday. He "confirmed" that the package of prospects the O's just traded was what they offered to Getz for Cease. Barring some kind of injury or disastrous first half, Getz made the right move. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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