Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Seems to have gotten more active today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snowy Demon Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: Is this a news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Snowy Demon said: Is this a news? It's not news per se but right now it's clear Getz is playing the two AL East foes against each other to get each to increase its offer. The old Nixon "triangular diplomacy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Snowy Demon said: Is this a news? It’s news for any of the crazy people that think there’s any chance that Getz holds onto Cease until the trade deadline. Rosenthal says he will be traded once the rest of the better starting options (Imanaga, Snell, Montgomery, Stroman) are signed and cited the obvious massive risks that make holding onto Cease a bad decision — a poor first half performance and/or injury, which still outweigh Cease potentially pitching lights out. Edited January 9 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Demon Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 18 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: It's not news per se but right now it's clear Getz is playing the two AL East foes against each other to get each to increase its offer. The old Nixon "triangular diplomacy" This is good concept in theory, but each team should make the best trade that will help the respective team. One key thing in negotiating tactic is to prepare to walk away. In this case, the White Sox clearly prefer Orioles prospects over all other teams "linked" to Cease. Other teams dropped out such as Atlanta, Cincinnati, and Dodgers. Now, NYY and NYM are "involved" according to these reports. Only constant is the Orioles. Mike Elias does not seem like a person who gets desperate or any external factors influence him. It is also Getz's prerogative to wait until TDL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I've accepted that the O's are just staying put and getting the best rental they can for Ortiz at the break (if they're still in it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/1/9/24032064/dealin-cease-chris-getz-updates-ongoing-talks-to-trade-white-sox-ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Demon Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) Is it also possible that the White Sox front office thinks AL Central can be won with Cease being with White Sox? AL Central is the weakest division in MLB. After all, a team only needs to get into the playoff. Two teams barely got into the playoff made to the World Series in 2023. Edited January 9 by Snowy Demon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Snowy Demon said: Is it also possible that the White Sox front office thinks AL Central can be won with Cease being with White Sox? AL Central is the weakest division in MLB. After all, a team only needs to get into the playoff. Two teams barely got into the playoff made to the World Series in 2023. No. Jerry was simply lying to Sox fans in his press conference when he announced that Getz was taking over and he said that he believed the Sox were only a few moves away from being competitive. Either that or he’s going delusional in his old age. Cease will be traded. Edited January 9 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, Snowy Demon said: Is it also possible that the White Sox front office thinks AL Central can be won with Cease being with White Sox? AL Central is the weakest division in MLB. After all, a team only needs to get into the playoff. Two teams barely got into the playoff made to the World Series in 2023. Not with the moves they've made, no. Pretty much every "leak" and "Insider report" makes sense if the White Sox have spent the offseason trying to pump up the market for Cease using deliberate messages to anyone who will listen. Over and over it's been how much demand there is for him, how high his price is, but how they totally expect him to move, how they're talking to team after team. For right or wrong, they believe that doing this in public will help them strengthen the offer that they receive for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Not with the moves they've made, no. Pretty much every "leak" and "Insider report" makes sense if the White Sox have spent the offseason trying to pump up the market for Cease using deliberate messages to anyone who will listen. Over and over it's been how much demand there is for him, how high his price is, but how they totally expect him to move, how they're talking to team after team. For right or wrong, they believe that doing this in public will help them strengthen the offer that they receive for him. Then how do you explain Rosenthal saying how strong of a package the Sox will get for him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 19 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/1/9/24032064/dealin-cease-chris-getz-updates-ongoing-talks-to-trade-white-sox-ace Getz comment that "all it takes is..." seems designed to get Cashman to close the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, fathom said: Then how do you explain Rosenthal saying how strong of a package the Sox will get for him? Because the White Sox have been telling Rosenthal "We will get a strong package for Dylan Cease" since November? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Because the White Sox have been telling Rosenthal "We will get a strong package for Dylan Cease" since November? If it were that simple don't you think Rosenthal would qualify it by saying something like "some league executives believe Chicago will get a massive haul, while others believe a more realistic expectation is X" so he doesn't have egg on his face if it turns out that going out on a limb was a bad idea? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 11 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Because the White Sox have been telling Rosenthal "We will get a strong package for Dylan Cease" since November? I don’t think Rosenthal is as much of a shill as Nightengale is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: If it were that simple don't you think Rosenthal would qualify it by saying something like "some league executives believe Chicago will get a massive haul, while others believe a more realistic expectation is X" so he doesn't have egg on his face if it turns out that going out on a limb was a bad idea? Naw. No one ever demands accuracy from these sorts of links, there are never consequences if they're wrong. The closest you'd get is Morosi saying "oops sorry Ohtani isn't on his way to Toronto", and he went right back to his reporting of leaks without ever burning his source, and with people continuing stating things he says are rumors about other moves. They're getting eyeballs and clicks, and it's the role the GMs want them playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Whisox05 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Imanaga to cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Just now, Whisox05 said: Imanaga to cubs. Good, I don’t think that will go well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, Whisox05 said: Imanaga to cubs. Good. Now hopefully Snell, Montgomery, and Stroman sign quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Good, I don’t think that will go well. Extreme flyball pitcher with 91-92 heat? As long as the wind is blowing in at Wrigley, he should be okay. Otherwise, during the heat of the summer, there could be some lasers flying out onto Waveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Snell really is the wild card now. It doesn’t sound like the Giants are gonna get him (Stroman likely?), which leaves the Yankees as the leaders IMO. Montgomery is gonna go back to the Rangers it appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 9 minutes ago, fathom said: Snell really is the wild card now. It doesn’t sound like the Giants are gonna get him (Stroman likely?), which leaves the Yankees as the leaders IMO. Montgomery is gonna go back to the Rangers it appears. Are the angels out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Are the angels out? No idea, if anyone wants Giants info, this account has been accurate. @GhostBayAreaBob Edited January 10 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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