T R U Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, fathom said: I will be honest, I want him traded prior to opening day because I really don’t want to have to care how anyone on this roster performs. At least until some of the young guys come up, but yeah opening day is going to be filled with a bunch of garbage I don't have much interest in watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 What about a Kjerstad/Westburg/Povich package? That would allow the O’s to keep Cowser and then Ortiz can slot in for Westburg. Meanwhile the Sox would get a right fielder, 2nd baseman, and pitching prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: But you didn’t answer the question. I listed a package that I would consider an “underwhelming” package. You’d accept it anyways? If I had two options and they were Cease gets injured and craters his value or Cease gets traded for Ortiz+Povich+Beavers I will take the trade of Ortiz+Povich+Beavers. Again, what I said was just a hypothetical and am not advocating to just give him away to avoid injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: What about a Kjerstad/Westburg/Povich package? That would allow the O’s to keep Cowser and then Ortiz can slot in for Westburg. Meanwhile the Sox would get a right fielder, 2nd baseman, and pitching prospect. Sounds good to me, which usually means the other team says no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 17 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Right. I think when he says “fill-ins” it’s a teams #5-15 prospects, depending on the strength of the farm system. Not top 100 mlb prospects but not complete long shots either. I don't know, to me filler wouldn't be guys in the top 10 of a farm system. But I guess that would also depend on the farm (filler from the O's would definitely be outside top 10) IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, fathom said: Hypothetically, the Orioles could be offering something like Kjerstad, Norby and Beavers, but the Sox are asking for Westburg also. I do think all the headlines of “Sox will hold on to Cease” are overblown based off what Rogers wrote. I think they trade him before spring training and the return looks something like a high impact position player, a high impact pitcher and a medium impact player. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I think they trade him before spring training and the return looks something like a high impact position player, a high impact pitcher and a medium impact player. Reading between the lines, that sounds like the Yankees have the pieces that match what you suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 55 minutes ago, fathom said: Kjerstad, Westburg, Mayo, Cowser, Dominguez, Jones, Hampton from Orioles and Yankees would be a guess Basallo too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, fathom said: Hypothetically, the Orioles could be offering something like Kjerstad, Norby and Beavers, but the Sox are asking for Westburg also. I do think all the headlines of “Sox will hold on to Cease” are overblown based off what Rogers wrote. I’d love beavers as the 3rd piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 (edited) 4 hours ago, fathom said: Also, sure seems like the Sox are holding out for Mayo Would be so awesome…Sports Guy would literally implode if we got him Edited January 10 by Chicago White Sox 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 20 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I think they trade him before spring training and the return looks something like a high impact position player, a high impact pitcher and a medium impact player. So Jones, Hampton, and a 3rd piece of the Sox choosing it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: What about a Kjerstad/Westburg/Povich package? That would allow the O’s to keep Cowser and then Ortiz can slot in for Westburg. Meanwhile the Sox would get a right fielder, 2nd baseman, and pitching prospect. If you can get Kjerstad + Westburg, I can very little about the 3rd piece and would take lesser, father away prospect to complete the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Does Baltimore have enough talent to take both Cease and Roberts? With Boras controlling Roberts, it’s time to start thinking of trading him also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I feel like the Sox probably want the best 2 pieces in a deal to be a position player and pitcher. 3rd, and possibly 4th, pieces can be farther away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolle Tide Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: If you can get Kjerstad + Westburg, I can very little about the 3rd piece and would take lesser, father away prospect to complete the deal. How realistic do you think that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, T R U said: If I had two options and they were Cease gets injured and craters his value or Cease gets traded for Ortiz+Povich+Beavers I will take the trade of Ortiz+Povich+Beavers. Again, what I said was just a hypothetical and am not advocating to just give him away to avoid injury. But you’re assuming he gets hurt? Why? Where’s the third option in which he pitches decently well in the first half of the season and they trade him in July? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 49 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I think they trade him before spring training and the return looks something like a high impact position player, a high impact pitcher and a medium impact player. That’s what I’m expecting too. anything short of that would indeed be underwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, Rolle Tide said: How realistic do you think that is? Not very for either side because I don’t see the Orioles trading Westburg and I think the Sox want one of the two premium prospects to be a pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 32 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: So Jones, Hampton, and a 3rd piece of the Sox choosing it is. Yes! This is my ideal package. If we can pry Jones + Hampton + Lombard or Arias or Warren from the Yankees that would be fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolle Tide Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Not very for either side because I don’t see the Orioles trading Westburg and I think the Sox want one of the two premium prospects to be a pitcher. If they don’t covet McDermott or Povich you’re right. I agree Elias is unlikely to trade Westburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 11 minutes ago, Rolle Tide said: How realistic do you think that is? I mean, Jim Bowden seems to think it’s realistic and he’s a former GM, so I’d say it’s very much possible. But perhaps Getz wants Mayo at all costs…can’t say I can blame it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 7 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Not very for either side because I don’t see the Orioles trading Westburg and I think the Sox want one of the two premium prospects to be a pitcher. Then we’re in big trouble, because many teams including the Orioles don’t have a premium pitching prospect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 A 2025 lineup as below would be pretty fire! 1B: Alonso (FA) 2B: Westburg SS: Montgomery* 3B: Ramos LF: Benintendi* CF: Robert RF: Kjerstad* DH: Jimenez / Vaughn CA: Quero# 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 4 minutes ago, Rolle Tide said: If they don’t covet McDermott or Povich you’re right. I agree Elias is unlikely to trade Westburg. I don’t consider either of those pitchers premium prospects. 45 FV prospects that don’t move the needle. Sox have plenty of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I mean, Jim Bowden seems to think it’s realistic and he’s a former GM, so I’d say it’s very much possible. But perhaps Getz wants Mayo at all costs…can’t say I can blame it. I think he was referring to the O's dealing their starting 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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