fathom Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: We could definitely use a rumor right about now. f***, I’ll even take a Morosi nugget…just give us something to discuss. Not Cease, but Sox are out on Rodriguez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, bmags said: Really? They have such a good rotation already But they have also offered Yamamoto a $250M+ deal. I guess you could shop someone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, fathom said: Not Cease, but Sox are out on Rodriguez Bummer…obviously I’m going off second hand scouting reports, but he felt like a gamble worth taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Bummer…obviously I’m going off second hand scouting reports, but he felt like a gamble worth taking. Depends on the size of the gamble. Need to see the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: But they have also offered Yamamoto a $250M+ deal. I guess you could shop someone though. missed that, good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, ptatc said: Depends on the size of the gamble. Need to see the contract. That’s a good point. With this market, it’s possible he gets much more than I’m anticipating which is around 5/$40M (which is already a gamble). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: That’s a good point. With this market, it’s possible he gets much more than I’m anticipating which is around 5/$40M (which is already a gamble). Also might be with Colas likely on the way out and Grandal history...with Moncada going in that direction, Vera scuffling with injuries, that they are reassessing the ROI on the Cuban Connection. At least for the type of money being bandied about for these starting pitchers. Obviously they brought in Cousin...but that was the very bottom of the market. What direction Getz can go in to make his own personal imprint is unknown...other than speed defense athleticism. If that's the case they should sign Kiermaier for the OF on the cheap. Edited December 21, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Also might be with Colas likely on the way out and Grandal history...with Moncada going in that direction, Vera scuffling with injuries, that they are reassessing the ROI on the Cuban Connection. At least for the type of money being bandied about for these starting pitchers. Obviously they brought in Cousin...but that was the very bottom of the market. What direction Getz can go in to make his own personal imprint is unknown...other than speed defense athleticism. If that's the case they should sign Kiermaier for the OF on the cheap. The State of the Union for Cuban White Sox remains very strong. Cuban Connection Position Player fWAR 2019-2023 Cubans vs. Non Cubans 2019 7.1 (JA, YM) 4.2 2020 5.1 (JA, YM, LR Jr.) 8.2 2021 9.9 (JA, YM, LR Jr.) 12.9 2022 6.8 (JA, YM, LR Jr.) 8.1 2023 6.2 (YM & LR Jr.) vs. -2.9 Total Cubans 35.1 vs. 30.5 Everyone Else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Rusty_Kuntz said: I mentioned the Phillies a while back. They could offer a great package but they have a solid five man rotation already, iirc. Wheeler, Walker, Nola, Suarez, and Sanchez. The first four are obvious, and Sanchez broke out as a starter last year. Not sure I’d pencil Walker in there….def not at #2. He didn’t touch the field in the playoffs and he also had some negative comments about the team in the media after the season. Wouldn’t surprise if he wasn’t on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Not sure I’d pencil Walker in there….def not at #2. He didn’t touch the field in the playoffs and he also had some negative comments about the team in the media after the season. Wouldn’t surprise if he wasn’t on the team. I didn't put them in order, he'd probably be #4. I doubt he isn't with them this season but I suppose it's possible. Tough to give up a dude who made 31 starts and pitched 170 innings in this era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohnut Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: We could definitely use a rumor right about now. f***, I’ll even take a Morosi nugget…just give us something to discuss. We could talk about all the guys we’re “out” on? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Bummer…obviously I’m going off second hand scouting reports, but he felt like a gamble worth taking. The White Sox see him as a reliever 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 4 hours ago, dohnut said: We could talk about all the guys we’re “out” on? Remember when we all stupidly believed the Sox might sign a star player in their prime? Those were the days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Remember when we all stupidly believed the Sox might sign a star player in their prime? Those were the days. The closest was Adam Dunn, David Robertson and Liam Hendriks...other than Albert Belle, obviously. Unless you want to count Jose Abreu and Luis Robert, Jr.??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted December 22, 2023 Author Share Posted December 22, 2023 Seems like this thing could wrap up in the next day or two with teams actually being eliminated from the bidding 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I wish Getzie would hurry up and trade him for Gods sake, this thread alone has to take up at least 50% of the internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindersrule Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 51 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Unless you want to count Jose Abreu Definitely counts as "signed in prime" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Grindersrule said: Definitely counts as "signed in prime" It was kind of a stealth signing in a way ... only a couple of teams in on him. In some ways, the Robert deal seemed more momentous. The Sox actually beat the Cardinals at something for once, after always missing out on targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Remember when we all stupidly believed the Sox might sign a star player in their prime? Those were the days. Don't think they've done that to a player not on the team since Albert Belle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, ptatc said: Don't think they've done that to a player not on the team since Albert Belle. As far as star free agent acquisitions, he might be the last. As sad as that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) Snell possibly down to Giants and Angels Edited December 22, 2023 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 This reminds me of that offseason we anticipated Quintana being traded then he wasn’t. Hahn held onto him and got Eloy/Cease at the all star break. Could happen with Cease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, fathom said: Snell possibly down to Giants and Angels I thought he wanted to go to the Mariners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, fathom said: Snell possibly down to Giants and Angels Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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