South Side Hit Men Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Well, the White Sox didn’t find one single 3-4ish fWAR Chris Taylor, Max Muncy, k*** Rodriguez, Outman or Justin Turner in ten years of Hahn. The Dodgers…pre and post Friedman, have been able to come up with one of those guys on average every two seasons. Anderson, Rodon and Bummer are the only players drafted by Hahn with a White Sox career bWAR above 2.0 during their salary controlled six year window. Edited December 14, 2023 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Pancakes and waffles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: They didn’t trade him due to pressure from SoxTalk, lol. You can add AJ Pollock to that previous list…he fooled Hahn in a similar way to Benintendi. Heyward to a lesser extent. I mean if we're just including everyone (i.e, not free agents), then I guess we include healthy Moncada (2019, 2021) and Luis Robert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Kyyle23 said: Pancakes and waffles Objection! Croissant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Quin said: This is why he's doomcasting them. Cause Friedman exists on another plane than Preller. Someone is just grumpy AF that the Padres bubble burst and it blew up in Preller’s face. We should pay his fever dream diatribes no mind, trying to argue reason is futile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Someone is just grumpy AF that the Padres bubble burst and it blew up in Preller’s face. We should pay his fever dream diatribes no mind, trying to argue reason is futile. Not sure how Seidler dying and the RSN models of revenue generation drying up help the White Sox exactly. It's contributing to basically the bottom half of the major leagues being left behind from a competitiveness standpoint. Especially those same lower tier teams being more risk averse like the Orioles and holding onto their prospects for dear life for fear of "all in" seasons that blow up like the White Sox over 2022-23. Sox are currently in the #30 position despite being in a massive media market and with their own self-controlled tv networks even...how is that even possible? What fans want the opposite of Seidler, an ownership group whose primary goals are financial and where a 3rd to 4th place finish might be considered ideal if setting record profits? Edited December 14, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Pancakes and waffles The White Sox are now Waffle House gruel...not even close to I-Hop or Village Inn. Maybe a Denny's...in the 80s and 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) Arte Moreno/Angels declined multiple opportunities to match LAD/SFG offers to Ohtani https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2023-12-14/shohei-ohtani-arte-moreno-angels-offer-dodgers Ohtani costing $46 vs. $55 million in terms of the salary cap hit in 2024…the cost of one Joe Kelly https://global.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/39104627/shohei-ohtani-contract-dodgers-deferrals-free-agency Edited December 15, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) Note to Sox: Might want to use an inspirational "Air"-like MJ video the next time you go after Machado Harper Wheeler-esque free agents. https://sports.yahoo.com/shohei-ohtani-free-agency-dodgers-reportedly-used-6-year-old-kobe-bryant-video-pitch-to-land-star-230419392.html Edited December 16, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Note to Sox: Might want to use an inspirational "Air"-like MJ video the next time you go after Machado Harper Wheeler-esque free agents. https://sports.yahoo.com/shohei-ohtani-free-agency-dodgers-reportedly-used-6-year-old-kobe-bryant-video-pitch-to-land-star-230419392.html That’s wild. Imagine going to see a team and a dude who is legendary and passed years prior says your name in a video. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, hi8is said: That’s wild. Imagine going to see a team and a dude who is legendary and passed years prior says your name in a video. ? White Sox would never have the vision to pull something like that off... as early as the kid being in high school in Japan, he was on their radar with his destiny written in the stars seemingly. Then when things didn't align six years ago...they still had the foresight to wait for the right moment to strike. Edited December 16, 2023 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 https://sports.yahoo.com/why-shohei-ohtani-contract-deferral-232114904.html Four points… 1) Ohtani suggested it 2) No other players are getting $50 million in endorsements to keep the cash flow maintained, let alone $5 million with Trout going backwards 3) The difference in payroll threshold only amounts to adding Joe Kelly’s $9 million…$46 million vs. $55 million salary hit to LAD in 2024 4) Numerous teams could have offered similar packages, we already know the Giants did, for example…so less about Friedman/Warner and more about Ohtani’s desire to be a champion 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 https://africa.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/39105636/inside-shohei-ohtani-700-million-contract-los-angeles-dodgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He gave Kelly’s wife a Porsche for Kelly giving up 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: He gave Kelly’s wife a Porsche for Kelly giving up 17. That's pretty cool. "You're gonna love Joe Kelly" /sorry I couldn't resist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said: That's pretty cool. "You're gonna love Joe Kelly" /sorry I couldn't resist Ha ha I still don't love Joe Kelly and I'm happy he's elsewhere. If anything it makes me love Shohei even more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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