Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Not 100% final, but expected per Heyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Can’t wait to see the terms of this one. Gray is coming off a great year, but a HR/flyball rate that doesn’t seem to be sustainable and will be 34 years old this upcoming season. MLBTR projected he’d get 4/$90M here, but my guess is he clears $100M one way or the other and that would further reinforce that SP will be super costly this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 That’s fine. It tightens up the pitching supply and we no longer have to listen to St. Louis fans offering up the junk drawer of a 70-win team for Cease. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I like the fit there. I would have preferred for them to sign another mid-rotation type arm than the two number 5's they signed last week (Lynn and Gibson). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 https://x.com/ken_rosenthal/status/1729146971687100850?s=46&t=JzxlP-5WAau6tv45z5GU7g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Looks like I was wrong on the $100M…lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Looks like I was wrong on the $100M…lol I was thinking he'd get a small bump on that Toronto Ryu deal from back in the day, but no looks like nobody went 4 years on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, bmags said: I was thinking he'd get a small bump on that Toronto Ryu deal from back in the day, but no looks like nobody went 4 years on it. $75M for 3 yrs isn't so bad. He cashed in on a good year and probably is getting more in the next 3 years than he's made his entire career. Get it out of the way now and prepare for the season with no worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: $75M for 3 yrs isn't so bad. He cashed in on a good year and probably is getting more in the next 3 years than he's made his entire career. Get it out of the way now and prepare for the season with no worries. Absolutely, always interesting to see a player his age whether they'll try to get some more playing certainty into the decade. But instead he got better pay per year. I think both sides probably prefer that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He's been a great bargain his whole career, minus like two seasons. Finally getting paid at age 34. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 looks like a fair deal. too bad, was still hoping we could get Winn and Hence out of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Looks like I was wrong on the $100M…lol Yes, but correct on the annual salary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkChopExpress Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, nrockway said: looks like a fair deal. too bad, was still hoping we could get Winn and Hence out of them I don't see why St. Louis would give up pursuing Cease if they are truly interested. He's still relatively cheap and under control for two years. It would only cost them prospects and it's not like they couldn't still use another high-end starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, nrockway said: looks like a fair deal. too bad, was still hoping we could get Winn and Hence out of them In a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, PorkChopExpress said: I don't see why St. Louis would give up pursuing Cease if they are truly interested. He's still relatively cheap and under control for two years. It would only cost them prospects and it's not like they couldn't still use another high-end starter. Agreed. They could absolutely still be in the running for Cease especially if they do trade Matz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 29 minutes ago, PorkChopExpress said: I don't see why St. Louis would give up pursuing Cease if they are truly interested. He's still relatively cheap and under control for two years. It would only cost them prospects and it's not like they couldn't still use another high-end starter. Could see it too I just wish they didn’t decide to fill their rotation with 2 #5s last week. Matz may end up being moved to the pen or traded though so there still might be another spot open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, PorkChopExpress said: I don't see why St. Louis would give up pursuing Cease if they are truly interested. He's still relatively cheap and under control for two years. It would only cost them prospects and it's not like they couldn't still use another high-end starter. You're right, the division is up for grabs, the Brewers will certainly be worse and I had a dream (prophecy) that Bellinger will go home and sign with the DBacks on a giant deal (or I read it 'rumored' somewhere but can't where. I'm going with vision). Their position players are running out of time to do anything. Might as well go all in the next two years. Still, I don't think they'd want to part with Winn who is probably starting at short next season. He's the main guy I'd want back, fits perfectly at 2B on the Sox or realistically at SS with Montgomery moving to 3B. depends on Ramos I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Hurt Minnesota’s rotation and helps StL in the NL Central. Win Win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3/$75 million and a %25 million AAV certainly helps the Sox in trade negotiations for Cease Sox would be wise to let more dominos fall in free agency and creating an urgency for contenders to add such an affordable starter for the next two seasons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Maybe the pitching market will start to move now a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: Not with Wainright retiring and being replaced by relatively youngish Lynn… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 The Cardinals step up spend Gray 25 mil, Gibson 12 mil and Lynn 10 mil to rebuild their staff and we look to trade cease. Frustrating! I don't dislike DeJong but it not very exciting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, Springfield Soxfan said: The Cardinals step up spend Gray 25 mil, Gibson 12 mil and Lynn 10 mil to rebuild their staff and we look to trade cease. Frustrating! I don't dislike DeJong but it not very exciting DeJong sucks. He won't make it through the season without being released. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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