wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: It's crazy to me that the bounce-back candidates that pitched in the MLB last year are too expensive for the Sox (Severino signing for $13M) so they have to go even cheaper. Any free agents available from the California Penal League? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I actually am happy about this. AsiaPac has been nowhere in our scouting for 15 years after being a huge value for us. He only has to be a mediocre starting pitcher to show value, and this is why you have a bannister/katz set up. They should give them a bunch of bounce back guys to see if they are a legit organizational specialty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, wegner said: Any free agents available from the California Penal League? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I would support a FEDDE signing. You have to hit on some guys like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, bmags said: I actually am happy about this. AsiaPac has been nowhere in our scouting for 15 years after being a huge value for us. He only has to be a mediocre starting pitcher to show value, and this is why you have a bannister/katz set up. They should give them a bunch of bounce back guys to see if they are a legit organizational specialty. I am very hopeful of the Bannister influence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I'm fine with the signing but as of right now, if he is added, the rotation looks worse than anyone probably expected coming into the off-season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'm fine with the signing but as of right now, if he is added, the rotation looks worse than anyone probably expected coming into the off-season. It is extremely hilarious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'm fine with the signing but as of right now, if he is added, the rotation looks worse than anyone probably expected coming into the off-season. Our rotation was pretty bad last year. It was just names....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, 2Deep said: Our rotation was pretty bad last year. It was just names....... I thought the names would look better going into next year than the names we are currently penciling in lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'm fine with the signing but as of right now, if he is added, the rotation looks worse than anyone probably expected coming into the off-season. Since 2002, the OD starters have been: Buehrle, Contreras, Sale, Samardzija, Quintana, Shields, Giolito, and Cease. And now Touki. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'm fine with the signing but as of right now, if he is added, the rotation looks worse than anyone probably expected coming into the off-season. It'll be like having a 5th starter go every game. I still recommend bringing back Bryan Shaw and using him as the opener every day...Pedro is going to use him eventually so just get it over with early. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wegner said: It'll be like having a 5th starter go every game. I still recommend bringing back Bryan Shaw and using him as the opener every day...Pedro is going to use him eventually so just get it over with early. Let him pitch the first inning and send him home to enjoy the rest of his day/night. Bryan Shaw's 2024 season: 162 G, 162 GS Edited December 5, 2023 by Bob Sacamano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Let him pitch the first inning and send him home to enjoy the rest of his day/night. Sounds like how I have handled most White Sox games lately. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I think bullpen pitching free agents should be terrified of our situation. They will not be able to be used optimally and likely burn them out so we are also going to run out some extreme bounce back guys 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'm fine with the signing but as of right now, if he is added, the rotation looks worse than anyone probably expected coming into the off-season. I don’t know. Quite a few people on this board expected it to be pretty bad. If it excludes Scholtens, it will actually be better than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, bmags said: I think bullpen pitching free agents should be terrified of our situation. They will not be able to be used optimally and likely burn them out so we are also going to run out some extreme bounce back guys Right. This team is going to need to carry multiple long-relief options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Timmy U said: I don’t know. Quite a few people on this board expected it to be pretty bad. If it excludes Scholtens, it will actually be better than expected. Bad but with some more upside guys like Severino for example. People were even hopeful we would bring back Giolito, along with his friend Flaherty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I kinda think we should call up James Shields to be a mentor. Should be cheaper than the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Oh man I never realized he never pitched again after the sox. I love how many careers Rick Hahn ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 One step closer to getting Kopech out of the rotation is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: If he was smart he would take the Mets offer, why would anyone choose the Sox if money was similar. Certainly not to join an organization run by JR, a rookie GM, and Pedro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, bmags said: I actually am happy about this. AsiaPac has been nowhere in our scouting for 15 years after being a huge value for us. He only has to be a mediocre starting pitcher to show value, and this is why you have a bannister/katz set up. They should give them a bunch of bounce back guys to see if they are a legit organizational specialty. Couldn’t agree more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 11 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said: If he's smart, he will sign with NYM. Beat me to it, I didn't read your post until I posted mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, A-Train to 35th said: If he was smart he would take the Mets offer, why would anyone choose the Sox if money was similar. Certainly not to join an organization run by JR, a rookie GM, and Pedro. The rope would be much longer here than in NY. The Sox are looking for innings being absorbed, the Mets are looking for quality innings. He'd be gone quick if he sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Quin said: Since 2002, the OD starters have been: Buehrle, Contreras, Sale, Samardzija, Quintana, Shields, Giolito, and Cease. And now Touki. Holy. f***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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